Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library GuyFinally, China. China wiped the disease out within their borders. They eliminated it, before any vaccine arrived. They're already back to economic growth and living normally. Because they didn't fuck around.

China claims they wiped the virus out, but they were also the ones claiming early on that there was no risk of person-to-person transmission despite the fact that they perfectly well knew the truth. They deliberately kept the rest of world in the dark for months about the potential dangers of the Chinese coronavirus, so why are you trusting them now?

Here's a timeline.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/04/28/the-covid-19-chronology-from-hell/ [External Link]
Show me when your months happened.

As for mask use, there is actually no good evidence that it can stop or even slow the spread of influenza like the Chinese coronavirus. There are actually studies going back for years that prove this, but when it came to this latest "emergency", governments operated on the logic of "We must do something" even if that "something" isn't actually effective. Case in point, there has been high mask and social distancing compliance in my state since at least August of this year, and yet things are supposedly worse now than they were before all the draconian measures were instituted. As the saying goes, if masks, then why aren't they working?

They're working pretty well about everywhere else, so I guess your state must be doing something pretty damn incompetent. Or perhaps the people making those claims haven't quite twigged to the incubation period lag, so they think that if they institute a measure it should stop the growth in cases right now, rather than in two weeks. Or, maybe you're just listening to liars.

Side note: You said "influenza like the Chinese coronavirus". This is an ambiguous phrase to parse. Did you mean that masks don't stop the spread of influenza, just as they don't stop the spread of the coronavirus? (In which case you're just wrong)
Or did you mean that masks don't stop the spread of influenza such as the coronavirus, ie is it meant to be a quiet allegation that Covid is a form of influenza? If so you're doubly wrong. 'Cause, like, it isn't you know. Coronaviruses are a different bunch from flu viruses.

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Merry Christmas to all, and to all some good games!

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: GuestSo is this a fork of the original dosbox code, or based on the 'staging' version that was recently advertised here?

According to the GitHub, they simply mention the original DOSBox.

That's kind of a pity.

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At this rate we're going to have a Bevy of open source game engines.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyWhat's a Graphene project?

Have you heard about those researchs with graphene? it's an amazing material with a lot of technology applications... and never leaves the research lab.

Ah, I see your point.

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Quoting: TheRiddickDoes Blender use vulkan now?

... work is already in progress to make the switch.

wait, really? i didnt knew that!
now i have mixed feelings, i dont have many hopes for projects like upbge, on the other hand, eevee made blender have an good performance for real time applications and it can get even better with vulkan

It's been underway for a while now, it's part of a longer term project. You can track the progress here [External Link].

nah, godot have an better workflow in my opinion, the issue is:
this fragmentation of the open source comunity across different projects to do the same thing (an game engine) may decreasse the evolution of both engines.
if we focus our bets in an single "horse" we have an better chance to compete, and i think godot is the "horse" to focus.
but this progress on blender made me question my opinions...

They don't really do the same thing. There's some overlap, but I think they're complementary, really.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guythe world has seen the US look like an unreliable basket case and fail to lead while it sees China take care of business and pay significantly more attention to helping elsewhere in the world.

I'm sure you're right about the plummeting opinion of the US around the world, but you might be mistaken if you think this has polished the world's opinion on China. We haven't suddenly forgotten about their totalitarian government, their human rights abuses and their expansionist ambitions. As you said, they got the virus under some resemblance of control quicker than some other countries, but that doesn't earn them much goodwill.

Point. But at the same time, China came out in favour of co-operation and low prices on vaccine development and distribution, while the US was all "Muh intellectual property! Enterprise gotta profit!"
If they follow through, third world's gonna notice.

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Quoting: BielFPsI hope Godot don't become a "Graphene project"

What's a Graphene project?

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Quoting: KimyrielleAbout time, really. The Civ Diplomacy AI is so bad that it's meme-worthy and has made almost zero progress since Civ 1 where it already acted like an escapee from Arkham Asylum.
I always found it mind-boggling how the devs could tolerate such an important aspect of the game to be in a state like this, particularly when that particular use-case (make sane diplomatic requests/offers matching the given relative standing of their nation compared to yours) isn't THAT complex.

Yeah. And after all, Civ obviously has plenty of ways to track that relative standing--they've got a whole section of UI dedicated to showing you exactly how you compare with the other folks in this, that and the other kind of power or progress. So they don't need to come up with any of that from scratch, they can just hook into it.

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Quoting: DorritIf governments hadn't intervened and hospitals and doctors were free to work with patients this would have been solved by now and without the need for vaccines because there are therapies effective enough.
It's not that governments minimized the problem; they created it. Central Power is the problem, always is.

You do realize that's completely ridiculous from start to finish, right? And you do realize that hospitals, doctors and nurses are basically unanimous in wanting strong public health measures from government?

Look, I'm sympathetic to suspicion of government . . . especially the American government. The government is interested in spying on us. The government does tend to grab more policing powers, circumvent rules intended to protect people's rights, and so on. That does not mean that every time anything goes wrong, it was the government that did it. You have to look at things case by case. There are plenty of other reasons for stuff to go wrong, from private profiteers to shit just happening. Covid just happened, although there are things about our economic setup that are making such things more likely overall.

The other thing you gotta keep in mind is, modern governments are the handmaids of plutocrats. They do things for the interests of those plutocrats. Trashing the economy by making everyone stay home from their jobs and not shop is not something anyone would expect to be good for plutocrats, so there's no way the government would want to do it.
In the specific US case, the government also does things to maintain the empire (mostly because there's a big sector of plutocrats that's good for). Covid has also been bad for the American empire--the world has seen the US look like an unreliable basket case and fail to lead while it sees China take care of business and pay significantly more attention to helping elsewhere in the world. The publicity has been just terrible.
Ergo, the government didn't do Covid; they don't have a motive.
(It so happens that the very rich have so far made out very well from Covid while everyone else got shafted, but nobody expected that--it was a weird result from a very complex set of circumstances. And it's probably not sustainable; elite wealth can be decoupled only so far, for so long, from general economic growth, no matter how much money you print for them)

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