Quoting: mao_dze_dunOnce again, I read the comments on something "controversial" like cloud gaming and remember why we can't have nice things on Linux...

I have nice things on Linux, dunno why you don't.
So, what, it's a terrible thing to think about things rather than just accepting them uncritically? Yeah, I'm fine with Linux people bothering to evaluate. Some of the people arguing here must be wrong, perhaps none are entirely right, but at least they're trying to figure things out. In the internet era it is wise to look gift horses in the mouth, since they rarely turn out to be actual gifts. Actual gifts create no profit. About the only gift horses that stand up to a good inspection are the open source ones.

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Quoting: Luke_NukemOh shit, so that *was* an issue! I thought I was going mad.

That could still be the case. For instance, I'm pretty sure you use Linux! :whistle:

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The randomized tech tree thing is . . . interesting? But really weird. Hi, I've got spearmen and fighter-bombers. Or, well, I would if I had any steel or oil . . .

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Good ol' Shamus! I used to read his site pretty regularly--he's an entertaining writer and as far as I can tell a pretty good guy and he's always got some interesting project/s on the go. I actually quit purely because the discussions under the posts were eating up too much of my time, especially for something that's off to the side of my core interests.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyDammit, I haven't had time to game at all (except regularly scheduled paper&pencil over Zoom) this week. Right now I am just about to go squash a ton of blackberries so I can make jelly.

Did you succeed in jelly making?Yes I know this is off topic. Just being curious. As for myself I picked up some blueberry from nearby woods. Soon I will pick tons of lingonberry from my secret place in the woods and make jam.Very healthy.:smile:

Lingonberry, huh? Sounds good. We don't have those around here--I think the only place I can get lingonberry stuff is Ikea. :grin:
Yup, worked fine. 8 jars of blackberry jelly; I spent 3 hours picking 'em. Had a step-stool with me so I could pick the stuff too high to reach that hadn't been picked over. My jelly and jam always turn out pretty well, but I don't have any special way of making 'em. I just use the instructions with the Certo pectin except I ignore where it says don't scant the sugar or it won't set and scant the sugar anyway by a cup or two. It always sets fine anyway and their way is too sweet.
One thing though--in my family we've found that if you want to keep jam a long time, freeze it. Not that it's freezer jam--freezer jam sucks. No, it's boiled up normally, but after it's made and cooled down we freeze most of it, that way it stays pretty much like new even a couple years later. If you just keep it on a shelf somewhere it gradually gets sort of darker and loses that powerful, fresh zingy fruitiness.

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Dammit, I haven't had time to game at all (except regularly scheduled paper&pencil over Zoom) this week. Right now I am just about to go squash a ton of blackberries so I can make jelly.

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Quoting: no_information_hereFrom the video, it looks like an interesting little economic flow game. I am not sure how the cynical "rip them off" part actually fits unless it is written in to the story really well.

I can see maybe the devs were worried about the audience and thought by mocking "The Man" they would have broader appeal?

Worked on me. :grin:
The Man is well worth mocking. I liked the asterisk after the title, leading you to the little disclaimer at the bottom.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Patola

Quoting: slaapliedjeAnd I don't even think Ubuntu is considered their 'officially supported' anymore, at least some bridges were burned and they had mentioned wanting to shift to a different one.

Canonical is now burning even more bridges [External Link]. I do think Ubuntu is going away as the informal standard desktop Linux distro, and although this is good in the long term, we'll have to endure the pains of change. I hope whatever distro supercedes it in the future at least is committed to the community.

I remember when Red Hat was a brash new outfit who wanted to make Linux an easy to use desktop OS. They gradually gave up on the desktop and concentrated on servers and business.

Then for a while Mandrake was the user-friendly desktop Linux, and was kind of based on Red Hat. Although they started doing it when Red Hat was still kind of desktop-oriented. Far as I can tell, they were somewhere in the middle of starting to give up and concentrate on the business side when they went belly up.

Then Ubuntu came along and were the saviours of Desktop Linux. They have now mostly sidelined the desktop and are concentrating on business and servers (these days aka "the cloud"). I'm kind of seeing a trend here. Visionary distros come along committed to the desktop, make a name for themselves, gradually realize there's no money in it and switch to servers and stuff, but lose popularity afterwards because while the money is in servers, the visibility in the Linux community is on the desktop.

Mint is currently the Mandrake to Ubuntu. Time will tell whether they can hang on a bit better than Mandrake did; I certainly hope so, and things seem all right so far.

Pop!OS is interesting because it's tied to hardware. System76 sell desktops, so for them, there is money in the desktop. They could be in it for the long haul. Unless they happen to come up with the next cool hardware widget, sell gajillions of those at inflated prices and start ignoring their computer biz. Ahem.

Mandrake didn't fully disappear, they just kept merging or changing names. Unfortunately that means most people lost track of them. Mandrake and Connectiva merged at some point (ditching the only thing Connectiva was known for (apt4rpm)). That made Mandriva. But then... I think it became an openMandriva? I don't even know.

No, they went under. Yes, it was after they bought/merged with Connectiva for reasons, and changed their name from Mandrake after losing a lawsuit about it. And yeah, there were community efforts to keep going--more than one project took the Mandriva base and continued it; that's open source for you. But the company itself died, pure and simple.
I was upset because I was a long time Mandrake/Mandriva user.

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Quoting: Patola

Quoting: slaapliedjeAnd I don't even think Ubuntu is considered their 'officially supported' anymore, at least some bridges were burned and they had mentioned wanting to shift to a different one.

Canonical is now burning even more bridges [External Link]. I do think Ubuntu is going away as the informal standard desktop Linux distro, and although this is good in the long term, we'll have to endure the pains of change. I hope whatever distro supercedes it in the future at least is committed to the community.

I remember when Red Hat was a brash new outfit who wanted to make Linux an easy to use desktop OS. They gradually gave up on the desktop and concentrated on servers and business.

Then for a while Mandrake was the user-friendly desktop Linux, and was kind of based on Red Hat. Although they started doing it when Red Hat was still kind of desktop-oriented. Far as I can tell, they were somewhere in the middle of starting to give up and concentrate on the business side when they went belly up.

Then Ubuntu came along and were the saviours of Desktop Linux. They have now mostly sidelined the desktop and are concentrating on business and servers (these days aka "the cloud"). I'm kind of seeing a trend here. Visionary distros come along committed to the desktop, make a name for themselves, gradually realize there's no money in it and switch to servers and stuff, but lose popularity afterwards because while the money is in servers, the visibility in the Linux community is on the desktop.

Mint is currently the Mandrake to Ubuntu. Time will tell whether they can hang on a bit better than Mandrake did; I certainly hope so, and things seem all right so far.

Pop!OS is interesting because it's tied to hardware. System76 sell desktops, so for them, there is money in the desktop. They could be in it for the long haul. Unless they happen to come up with the next cool hardware widget, sell gajillions of those at inflated prices and start ignoring their computer biz. Ahem.

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Quoting: GryxxNow i have to ask difficult question:
I'm looking for distro that:
1. Is fully compatible with Ubuntu in terms of gaming (mainly Robocraft, i do not want to use flatpak)
2. Has fresh packages (KDE, kernel, Mesa, Wine, Lutris being major ones)
3. Does integrate well with KDE
4. I would like something as close as possible to rolling relase

That is a difficult question. Don't think there's any such thing, especially when you add in that last bit.

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