Quoting: eggroleIf AI is good enough that you can't tell and need a disclosure, who cares? I suppose for some there is a "moral" component, but as I've said before the vast majority simply wants a good product - morality never even enters the chat.

yeah uh maybe that's a problem? maybe people SHOULD care? maybe morality SHOULD enter the chat?

nah, let's just throw our hands up and give up like you. giving up's always done so much for the world.

repugnant mindset.

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Whuff, seems a bit premature to me but I guess I'm not as smart as the people working on this. Hopefully they'll fix non-mouse-controlled cursors not wanting to show up on Wayland by then or else X4 is cooked for me.

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Quoting: Pyrate

Quoting: ScottCarammell

Quoting: legluondunetIs wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?

Alien: Isolation crashes on startup

I played Alien: Isolation start to finish on Wayland last year. Could be something else youre facing, or a recent regression.

Using AMD for my PC. Consistently crashed on my PC and on Steam Deck in gaming mode (both wayland), but worked fine on those same systems on X11 and desktop mode (both x11). This has been the case since the Steam Deck launched and is why it uses Proton by default. I feel confident in calling it a Wayland-origin issue.

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Quoting: legluondunetIs wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?

Very select games have problems (Alien: Isolation crashes on startup; X4: Foundations doesn't display its cursor when using controller due to Wayland's broken virtual cursor functionality), but by and large the vast, VAST majority of games work, and games using Proton are always functionally identical on Wayland

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Quoting: ScottCarammellUnfortunately it *does* require the Steam Linux runtime to function it appears, working as sort of a pseudo-DRM, so it's not quite DRM-free as the Windows and Mac versions are. Still, better than nothing.

Hard to call it DRM when the Steam Linux runtimes are open source [External Link], and all it takes is some developer effort to make the runtimes available in any Linux game launcher, completely legally. In fact, that's what UMU [External Link] already does.

All you need is someone motivated enough to implement (or copy) the Pressure Vessel and Steam Linux Runtime launcher bits for the purpose of running native games. (With a downloader and selector for the available runtime versions preferably, so that Steam isn't required at all.)

I was not aware of this at the time and figured it'd be more work than it's worth getting this working, thx for the info

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Quoting: AsciiWolfDoes the native port work on a standard Linux system?

I've seen people say it doesn't work for them, but for me at least it does - and it runs MUCH better than through Proton. Still not great mind you (~40 FPS in most areas), but still better (Proton was like ~20 FPS most of the time).

Are these for steam deck? 40fps is pretty good for steamdeck for this type of game so If they can get the last BG city running at that, then its good. (BG being the most fps taxing part of the game)

Nope, this was on my PC! My standard-issue, built from scratch PC.

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Quoting: AsciiWolfDoes the native port work on a standard Linux system?

I've seen people say it doesn't work for them, but for me at least it does - and it runs MUCH better than through Proton. Still not great mind you (~40 FPS in most areas), but still better (Proton was like ~20 FPS most of the time).

Unfortunately it *does* require the Steam Linux runtime to function it appears, working as sort of a pseudo-DRM, so it's not quite DRM-free as the Windows and Mac versions are. Still, better than nothing.

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Linux support wasn't planned at all under Riot, so any attempt being made is good news to me. Really hoping the future for Hytale is better than its development has been thus far, it'd be incredible to see.

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insane this guy wants to be taken seriously when he says

When we stopped supporting Linux, users made up less than .01% of the total player base, even if that number has doubled, or tripled, it's not worth it.

they really are just making shit up to defend their bone-ass decision making

I’m very comfortable saying that if a game supports Proton or Linux, they’re not serious about anti-cheat

and yet consistently games like Gunfire Reborn or ARC Raiders have less cheaters than your slop

Developers won’t be saying this kind of thing repeatedly if it was a flat out lie

We pretty consistently see no change in cheating when these things are rolled out. It's pretty safe to say it's a flat-out lie. Mandatory I'd say. Dishonest to say otherwise dare I say.

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HUGE, INCREDIBLE, UTTERLY AND WHOLLY FANTASTIC. GOD BLESS THE STEAM DECK 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇱🇷🗽🦅🦅💥💥💥

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