Quoting: ShmerlI quite doubt Google would be running Android on the server for gaming purposes. What for? Android can't run existing Linux games (thanks to its completely incompatible Surface Flinger) and normal glibc Linux works much better with Wine.

i dont know how good surface flinger is, but but x.org is outdated, everyone knows that and is trying to replace it with wayland but failing.
google has an bigger install base with android's surface flinger than x.org and wayland ever had, so why should they care?
they probably will make those games streaming only, then port it to chromeOS only and not give a shit about the rest of the linux world.

we are already busy fighting against each other (gnome x kde x etc) we dont have energy to compete against then (as if we could anyway)

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Quoting: elmapulubisoft never relase their games DRM free, streaming is just an stronger drm for then, but if they still make the game avaliable offline, then, nothing will change.

Well, then good riddance. I don't care about any recent Ubisoft games. They did release some older games DRM-free: https://www.gog.com/games?search=Ubisoft [External Link]

wow, i didnt knew that (i should have guessed, after all gog is drm free), good to know!

ok, let me rephrase it, they will not lauch it drm free, they may make it avaliable offline as drm free in the future.

in any case we have to chose what battles to fight first in order to won that war.
for example, if you have to chose between:
not having an linux version, but the windows version is DRM free
and:
having an linux version but with drm.

what would you chose?

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the youtube integration will very likely be used by streamers, and be an killer feature against twitch

Quoting: ShmerlGoogle pushing big publishers to make Linux/Vulkan games? That's big. As long as Google won't make an exclusivity requirement. It will make perfect sense for these publishers to release their Linux versions in digital stores for Linux gamers.

Personally, I'll only find such gaming acceptable if these games will be released DRM-free alongside their "streaming" releases. Otherwise it will become DRM squared.

ubisoft never relase their games DRM free, streaming is just an stronger drm for then, but if they still make the game avaliable offline, then, nothing will change.

and xbox being the failure it is in the current gen is the proof that you cant demand gamers to be online to be able to play their favorite games.

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Quoting: BrisseThis is scary and exciting at the same time.

+ Platform and hardware no longer matters as long as it can run a web browser.
+ Linux gamers might get access to games they would never had access to otherwise.
+ Servers are going to run Linux. Potentially means more native ports will appear for those of us not streaming.
+ We got Proton and DXVK, which I suspect are parts of a secret Valve streaming project and only released in the Linux Steam client as some sort of icing on the cake.
- The ultimate DRM.
- Big corporations will have way to much power over the consumer.
- The internet will collapse under the huge bandwidth requirements.
- There will always be more latency even though some things can be done to mitigate it.

i would add:
the end of mods

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Quoting: liamdaweI said nothing about the Switch, I said classic consoles. I mean the NES/SNES mini consoles, even Sony are doing a classic PlayStation.

Why would anyone buy this? They had enough people excited to gain well over 11K backers on IndieGoGo, don't underestimate hype for such devices.

ok sorry, i saw Nintendo and assume it was switch.
in any case, nes and snes classic sold like 2 millions of units, its a lot but you get 20 games for 60~80 U$D, and those are "legendary" games.
the ammount of people who are nostalgic about atari is much lower than the ones nostalgic about nes or snes.

yes atari vcs will come with "100" games but that is atari vault that you can already buy atari vault in any platform.

"Why would anyone buy this? They had enough people excited to gain well over 11K backers on IndieGoGo"
again, you are missing a thing.
11K is not enough to increasse our marketshare, ouya sold much more than this and still was an flop.

11k is not enough to justify an port to it (much less making an exclusive), unless you were an indie and had an guarantee that everyone you purchased this would purchase your game.

just to make an comparission, GTA sold 100 millions of copies, minecraft over 50 millions most triple A games sell at least 1 million of copies and that because they are on platforms that have an install base of > dozens of million, hundreds of millions or in the windows case 1.5 billions of users.
even linux having 1~2% of marketshare, may have 15 millions of users, and even then we only got an small ammount of triple A ports.

nothing against indies, but we definitelly need more triple A's, and its not selling dozens of thousands of atari vcs units that we will get more.
ok, it will sell more after launch, but not much more costing almost the price of an PS4, launching after or togheter with an ps5.

either we sell millions and quickly increase our marketshare, or we are just wasting money on hardware instead of software (and principally free software, i'm tired of seing projects like make human/manuel bastioni dying)

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Quoting: liamdaweWhile the PS5 and so on will continue pushing their AAA graphical realism powerhouse approaches, Nintendo released their classic consoles which sold like mad - seems to me there's still a market for this sort of thing.

Switch is seling because:
1)its fucking PORTABLE
2)it has Nintendo exclusives, Nintendo was not dead in the last 30 years, they were relasing sucessfull games every generation, they were sucessfull to port mario to 3D (unlike many others) and they keep making mario 2D games, they were sucessfull with many other exclusive franchises, either new ones or continuing to make old ones.

why would anyone sane buy this thing instead?
unless they are an blind linux fanboy or atari fanboy?

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i like the idea of the hypervisor, but i still think its an scam.

even if its not, sony will announce ps5 soon, microsoft may already be planing the next xbox and switch just launched, i'm afraid there is no rom for this thing, even if it have, it will not bring many new gamers to the table, we will have the ones who already play on ¹linux + the ²atari fans

¹(wich means we will not receive new games because the install base was not increassed and we will waste money on hardware wich have an cost per unit, instead of games)

²(there arent many anyway)

i think the Intellivision new console has an better proposal than this thing, at least its unique.

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honestly? we dont need this.

the potential for code reuse is almost non existant, we should make an remake of it on godot, that would be a big deal.

at the current state its freedom, but gives the user less creative freedom than mario maker (unless they are hardcore coders, but even in this case , they would have better results using an game engine anyway)

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the ones i'm more exicted to play
DARK SOULS™ III
STEINS;GATE
Mega Man Legacy Collection
Final DOOM

'LEGO® Star Wars™ III - The Clone Wars™'
i know that those lego games are good , but i'm not a big fan of the art direction, and starwars i'm more into the games than the movies, may give it an try anyway due to the gameplay.

"PAC-MAN™ Championship Edition DX+" not so excited but i shall give it an try.

FlatOut 2 (is also avaliable on gog, they had an "native" version for years, i think its just an wine wrapper, but at least there is an penguin logo, in any case it will count as an linux sale, and that is what matter)

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STEINS;GATE!

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