That's assuming Lenovo actually put any effort into pushing the SteamOS version... Which historically, hasn't been the case with third-party manufacturers.

this time is different, they probably gonna distribute the windows version every location they can, and from one version to another, the only difference is the hardware and a little icon on the case, im sure the logistics of changing those details last minute arent so complicated, so if the steamOS sell more than they expected, they can repurpose some of the windows devices as steamOS instead and vice versa, this reduce the risk for both versions streaminglining the distribution channels.

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this device selling well is the most important thing, since the steam deck launched.
if they sell well, more oems will ship steamOS and they will make more devices with steamOS, then linux will finally have a chance to grow.

other than that, then only with valve subsidizing hardware.

i doubt valve can compete using only their own cash, one of the reasons why microsoft is so strong is because they have rich partners like dell, hp, lenovo etc.

with more companies entering the market maybe they can sell (combined) as much as an switch does...

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i hate leds, but at least they made it look sci-fi on the first picture thanks to the lines

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Makes me wonder if Xbox will make an entry and compete directly against Nintendo Switch in the next few years.

i dont know why quote is broken but...

i think microsoft might try an vaporware.
promissing more than they can deliver, just to kill interest in the competition as they did with kinect, then once the competition is dead, they relase something just to say they did, or not even that, because they dont need anymore.
hopefully that strategy will fail.

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Quoting: klepon

Quoting: elmapulhonestly im tired of people suming up kadokawa as from software owners...
they are like... 1/3 of the anime industry? their gaming marketshare isnt even comparable.
if we consider that sony already own other anime companies and they own the biggest distributors of anime outside of japan (crunchroll and the former funimation that joined crunchroll)
this is a big monopoly!

Yep. Not just anime, manga, and games.

They're a big behemoth of light novel publishing.
Saekano, Re:Zero, Konosuba, almost all big hit light novel are their release.

Dwango's NicoNicoDouga (Japanese streaming platform) is also owned by them.

Their global presence also widespread, from Phoenix Gramedia (Indonesia), Bookwalker Taiwan, Anime News Network, Yes Press, Guangzhou Tianwen Kadokawa A&C, Kadokawa Gempak Starz (Malaysia), and so on.

Even all of these notable manga label/magazine are from them. I'm sure majority of you might not recognize these, but you might already read or even watch anime/live action adaptation from these label. ( even majority of "manga reader" only know Shueisha's Shonen Jump lol).

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when i said anime and manga, i implied light novels as well, its kinda of tiresome to type it all so i simplified a bit for... lazyness or because i forgot.

HOLYSHIT, they own niconico too? that alone is a reason for concern, we are REALLY screwed

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honestly im tired of people suming up kadokawa as from software owners...
they are like... 1/3 of the anime industry? their gaming marketshare isnt even comparable.
if we consider that sony already own other anime companies and they own the biggest distributors of anime outside of japan (crunchroll and the former funimation that joined crunchroll)
this is a big monopoly!

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Quoting: constRegarding your "XBox could just allow windows games" argument - hard no, they can't. Imagine all XBox users suddenly need to look up Xbox equivalent of ProtonDB to check GameXs compatibility state.

they dont need to run the game, but they might need something akin to playable/verified to know it the user experience is designed for the living room.

Quoting: constSteamDeck has shown there is more to running a game on a console applience then binary compatibility and not even that is guaranteed.

sure but we still dont know the numbers, other than more than 1 million and likely more than their competition.

Quoting: constOpenGL and Vulkan games exist and we are still talking console hardware and OS. Also MS doesn't care about Windows and if they loose the walled garden on XBox, why would they care for that any more. Doesn't make sense for them. And it would also meen Steam on XBox, so who would have won that fight? :D

why wouldnt microsoft care about windows? it makes then tons of money, xbox making more money than windows is a new thing, not the expected behavior and no guarantee that things will stay like that.

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its amusing to see that people can still create unique/original ideas despite the many years that this industry have.

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i wonder if those refurbished models arent an excuse to sell the same product for different prices (i mean, if some of those are actually new) , so they can sell for both the market wich is willing to pay more and the market wich cant afford more.

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hopefully we can finally have speatch synth on linux, eSpeak sucks and the solutions based on ai might be good (never tested) but are tricky to configure/install.

i hope valve can also fix speach recognition and... they open source their solutions for both.
its trick to do that in one language, let alone all of then...

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