Have removed my previous comment, as I can understand the sentiment about the Native talk considering Frictional’s history.

Just please keep in mind the posting rules, as complaining about Native ports in general on articles about games run through Proton is not something I keep wanting to see but here I get it.

Happy gaming ✌️

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Quoting: DrMcCoy

but the ultimate reason is pretty much the same as always — Linux and Steam Deck together hold a less than 2% user share on Steam

Sorry, but no, that's wrong. The reason is this:

due to the Linux version being on an older version of the PAYDAY 2 engine

I.e. a terrible development environment, the developers being bad at their job.

What I said still isn't wrong. If it was financially worth it, they would do it and they would have kept it up with other changes in the background. Debate the finer details of what it all would entail, and what they should have done, but the reasoning is exactly as I said and anyone saying otherwise at this point is deluded.

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Quoting: MohandevirAre the Steam Deck's original thumbsticks an issue? Personally I have no reason to change them, but I might just be lucky...

Pretty much all traditional joysticks will eventually drift, the design of these is supposed to last far longer and potentially never see drifting issues.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyIn the longer term, having all your games written for a platform controlled by a company that doesn't like you is likely to be less good than having your games written for your own platform. I'm not sure Microsoft can create enough pain for Proton by making changes to DirectX or whatever to create big problems for Linux gaming. And I'm certainly not sure they can do it without causing problems for Windows users and developers as well. But I'm not sure they can't, either, and I'm not at all sure they won't at some point try if Linux gains enough market share to feel like a threat.

Microsoft cannot retroactively change anything to hurt Proton that wouldn’t also completely screw up those same games on Windows. It’s not an issue. As for future changes, that’s not really likely and game devs take a long time to move into newer stuff to so Proton would catch up just like it has with D3D12.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyOh, c'mon Liam. Everything anyone says in the comments has to be interesting to you? I know it's your site, but dash it all--what do you tell people (and rightly so) when they bitch about some article not being what they want to see on the site?

I have no idea what you’re trying to say here. If people don’t want to see something: I don’t really care? 🤷‍♂️ people don’t have to click every article they’re not interested in.

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Just seems weird to me at this point to complain about a developer not doing a port, for reasons already explained a hundred times by now. Plus, I don't see how a port existing actually changes anything for Linux as a platform.

My main point is: this argument and the complaints have been done to death. It's boring and slightly annoying to see this native argument brought up constantly, when the same arguments get repeated by a few - most people don't care, because they just want to play games.

Proton is here, has been for years - and for gamers 99% just want a game to work. You can click play on it right now and it works great.

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I'm honestly surprised there's still this minority of people that are so uptight about Native ports.

It's nice to have them when they're properly supported, but Proton has been here getting games working instantly for quite a few years now. Time to just accept it. We're the only platform were a tiny minority of users get their feathers ruffled by what's being used by a game behind the scenes, rather than just caring if the game works. I just want to play games, on Linux (and Steam Deck). I click play and it runs - great.

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Let’s try to keep the comments clean please. I don’t want to keep removing comments or locking them down but some people are going overboard. Keep it civil, don’t accuse others of piracy or claim all emulation is piracy or anything stupid like that. Repeat offenders will be removed.

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Quoting: denyasisI couldn't think of the right words earlier, but I think what bugs me about Itch is that it feels like they are saying to the artists "You won't make much, but We'll pay you with exposure!", which seems like a pretty big no-no in a lot of freelance/artist circles and coupling that the promo of "changing lives" toward the consumer. To me, it feels worse that just a blatant "Gay Pride!!" sale.

To be clear, it's really nothing like that. 99% of bundles on itch.io are run by the developers directly, there's only certain special itch bundles that are from them. And, on itch.io, developers can set to give itch literally nothing. Like this bundle, you can see clearly who has organised it, other than hosting it itch have nothing to do with the creation or push behind it.

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Quoting: Mohandevir1 940 000 x 25.32%... 500k Steam Decks? Where are the others? Didn't Valve sold over one million units already (Projected 3 millions by the end of the year)?

Did Steam grew 3X since that 132millions? I doubt that...

It’s daily active, not overall numbers and as the article notes even that number is a year old.

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Note: the article originally stated it released on July 29th which was incorrect, it launches July 26th. Apologies on the error.

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