Quoting: ShmerlAnyway, do we need to care about Teams? Just another proprietary, non federated, walled garden IM service, that's not solving but proliferating the problem of IM fragmentation. Matrix is much better approach.

Yes, we do need to care. Same as we need to care about any application/game a lot of people use, that isn't available easily on Linux. Every single one is a barrier that can prevent people from sticking with Linux. We can make as many big steps on performance, ease of install and updating and so on - all junk unless what people want and regularly use is on Linux. Steps like this are important. Anyone who disagrees, frankly has their head firmly in a bubble.

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Quoting: MaathI was simply challenging your statement, "...the entire point is that it's yet another option to play popular titles on Linux." The paragraph that statement comes from seems to be downplaying the fact that Stadia is running Linux on the back end. Then your reply to me seems to be up-playing the fact that Stadia is running Linux on the back end.

I don't have any problems with Stadia coverage here. One could also say mobile gaming is gaming on Linux. It's your site, of course you'll run it however you like. Sometimes justifications aren't necessary.

Seems more then you misunderstood my previous comments. I was not downplaying anything about Stadia being Linux on the back end. I was trying making a point: if that is all it was, it would not be a fit for "Gaming On Linux" the website, the point is that the service works to play games on a Linux desktop/notebook making it relevant.

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Quoting: Maath

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: NanobangI'm a bit confused about the nature of Stadia. Is there more to it for Linux gamers than just using Linux at Google's end? If there isn't, it's fine with me---please don't think I'm trying to knock coverage of it here. I'm just feeling an excitement around Stadia here that I'm not feeling myself, so I figure I must have missed something along the way.

No, it's not just because it uses Linux on Google's servers, the entire point is that it's yet another option to play popular titles on Linux. Especially true for multiplayer titles (like Destiny 2). If it was just server stuff, we wouldn't cover it past their initial announcement. We're all about Linux + Gaming of course ;)

I see it on a comparable level to Steam Play at the very least. In comparison to Steam Play though, games on Stadia should "just work" where as Steam Play is a gamble unless you specifically seek-out titles that others have already been the guinea pig for to let you know if it works at all.

Well, then I guess technically playing games in a Windows VM running in Linux is playing games on Linux.

I'm sure you're trying to make a point here, but it's not sticking. Windows VM is just playing on Windows. Stadia is not. It's fully Linux. You're on Linux, playing a game through the browser that's also being run from Linux. Games on Stadia need to be ported to Linux/Vulkan, so there's developers going to be getting more Linux porting knowledge at the same time.

Perhaps your point was more that you dislike Stadia coverage here? If that's the case, I'm not bothered. I write about what I want and others may be interested to know - it's how GOL has always and always will be run. Gaming on Linux, not "game on Linux this one specific way" ;)

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Quoting: Shmerl@Liam: May be writing to them would be a good idea, to clarify what's blocking normal Linux release in this case.

I.e. in case of legacy publishers, such situation would be expected, but from THQ Nordic, I expected something better.

Same answer as always, market share. Stadia has Google's backing and is a "single platform" in the mind of developers.

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Quoting: NanobangI'm a bit confused about the nature of Stadia. Is there more to it for Linux gamers than just using Linux at Google's end? If there isn't, it's fine with me---please don't think I'm trying to knock coverage of it here. I'm just feeling an excitement around Stadia here that I'm not feeling myself, so I figure I must have missed something along the way.

No, it's not just because it uses Linux on Google's servers, the entire point is that it's yet another option to play popular titles on Linux. Especially true for multiplayer titles (like Destiny 2). If it was just server stuff, we wouldn't cover it past their initial announcement. We're all about Linux + Gaming of course ;)

I see it on a comparable level to Steam Play at the very least. In comparison to Steam Play though, games on Stadia should "just work" where as Steam Play is a gamble unless you specifically seek-out titles that others have already been the guinea pig for to let you know if it works at all.

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Quoting: ShmerlThat's very welcome! Any news on their GOG release plans?

They did say it will be on other stores as well, which have yet to be confirmed but will be closer to release.

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Quoting: KimyrielleSo essentially people are dissing on Feral for getting permission from a company to port a game to Linux, because the same company also happened to allow them to port their previous games?

That makes sense! *nods*

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/sarcasm

Seriously, I think people still mistakenly assume that Feral picks the games they port. From how I understand it, it's more that they have to beg them to let them do it, because nobody in big gaming business gives a flying fish about Linux.
I dislike the lack of AAA games on Linux as much as anyone, but the truth is that other than Square Enix and the Total War devs, nobody seems to be interested in Linux ports, so that's what Feral is porting.

It's like some people think we have a market share of 50% suddenly or something. The fact that Feral still port anything, at all, is frankly amazing and appreciated because:

- Their work is top stuff
- They contribute to the community as well
- They've contributed to Mesa drivers
- And so much more

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Quoting: GuestSo bring your own compatibility layer, try to log in for 5 minutes, and after that you can't even play multiplayer... I think this is the "nightmare" some devs [External Link] refer to when talking about gaming on linux.

Oh come on now, let's not make a drama out of this. This is completely different. We're not talking about a native supported game here, are we? No. This is not about the issues some developers face getting their game working nicely on Linux is it? No it is not.

These issues wouldn't be there, if it was a tested and supported Linux game, which it is not so don't mix it all together.

This is showing off how a massive game can be made to run on Linux, without the developer using a compatibility layer with a quick fix someone posted.

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Quoting: cere4lI'm a bit on the fence about this one, strangely enough I have no issues with emulation, or with paid games.. and yet it seems so odd to have to pay for what is effectively.. pure piracy in 99% of the usecases if not more.

I get what you're saying, but the whole paying for Early Access to new features is really just a way of supporting the developers of the emulator a little more. It's tough work for sure and all the code ends up open source anyway.

I wouldn't conflate emulation with piracy like that though. There's tons of legitimate use cases of emulation.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Creak@Liam Dawe How do you enable all these details?

According to the readme [External Link], DXVK_HUD=full should do the job.

Yup, added a note in case anyone else doesn't know.

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