Quoting: RutineLiam : "I'm clearly a pro gamer..... Oh my leg!!"

My timing to "blow my own trumpet" is never very good :D

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Quoting: micha@liamdawe I noticed similar issues with the default Steam Controller touch-pad settings for some games. Maybe GamingOnLinux can step-in and provide fixed versions when you guys notices such during your review process. Would be a nice added value. :-)

Yeah, that is an added value that might justify upping a Patreon contribution..

Sure, can certainly look to do that. I've just put up my tweaked config for Tesla :)

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Quoting: karmikLooks interesting. Have you played it with a Steam Controller?

Yup, works perfectly.

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Just wanted to say thanks for all the feedback :)

Quoting: 14I see this S version as a separate offering. I don't think anybody needs to get scared or spread a doom message to their poor Windows friends.

Did you read the source? It previously was a separate SKU, now it's going to be included with all versions of Windows.

Quoting: 14Other articles of this type on this site have been a bit more reasonable than this one. This one feels a little... slash-dot-ie.

I literally have no idea what "slash-dot-ie" is even supposed to mean.

Quoting: GrazenUnderstood, my point is just that the next version of Windows - now called Windows Core OS (not related to the Core OS that Red Hat just bought) - will be a massive upgrade similar to the upgrade to Windows NT 20 years ago. This will be a bigger threat than Windows 10 S - and Liam's article as a result is already dated. The threat however, is even bigger than the hyperbole in his article.

The article is based on a source that's only a few days old (how is that "already dated"?), that has new information on how Windows 10 S will work. Again, like I said above, it's going to be included with all versions of Windows.

As for "hyperbole". The only part of that article that could even remotely be classed as that is the end of it, but those are future possibilities. I didn't say they actual will happen, I said they're questions.

Editorials are opinion pieces, it's from my personal perspective and meant as a talking point, do keep that in mind folks. If you don't agree, that's fine :)

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Quoting: liamdaweHowever, this is the same Microsoft that tried to force the tiled interface on everyone and that came with a whole host of issues.

And they seem to have survived the backlash against those stupid decisions just fine. Sure, they made some concessions, but it's also important to keep in mind that 2-3 years ago, many well-informed, no-nonsense, serious people were putting forward very well formulated reasons as to why M$ had sentenced itself to eventual irrelevance by the unusable ui (even on servers), pissing off/almost-backstabbing OEM partners, and so on. So this is a scary thought: They are capable of making the dumbest decisions ... and then get away with it. If, in the wake of yet another idiotic M$ adventure, it's Vulkan adoption, or GOG, or whatever else that comes off as the losing party, that will be awful enough.

And that really should scare people. Hence reason #99999 why I use Linux as a primary driver of everything :)

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Quoting: WendigoThis game reminds me of "Halfway" which I enjoyed quite much.

Honestly, it already feels much more interesting.

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Quoting: webcreatureThat's why S will not be a version anymore, but a mode built into any version. Ok, no one really knows what MS does, and if they will really pull that off, but it is well known they use every leverage they can find. That way they did bad buisiness as long as I can remember. Also I can remember they have a history of wanting too much at once, then row back a bit, just to try it again later.
This time they could sell S mode as a chance for end users to have more security, while leaving the possibility for "sideloading" open. Who will argue against that except for those who think this alone can cut into the future Steam marketshare. I think most of the Windows gamers will flip the switch to turn S mode off, and be happy about it. New users however won't do that so easyly. At the same time MS could argue Win32 was insecure, legacy, the old ways, while everyone is "invited" to embrace the new ways. The MS Store would be open for everyone and so forth, all in the name of security and progress. And it would be so interoperable with XBox. Maybe they present some exclusive games for Windows and XBox.. I don't know.
What I do not understand clearly: Do you think that what MS is apparently up to do is irrelevant for gaming, do you think it is not and will drive gamers away, or do you think it will just not happen?

"Ok, no one really knows what MS does, and if they will really pull that off, but it is well known they use every leverage they can find."

No, you misunderstood what I'm saying. I'm just telling you that such an act would be a very stupid business decision due to consumer factor.

Don't get me wrong, I agree a lot with what you're saying. However, this is the same Microsoft that tried to force the tiled interface on everyone and that came with a whole host of issues.

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I wasn't being sarcastic either, I was being sincere. I want more Linux teasers, lots of them and for those then to be awesome Linux games ;)

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Quoting: manus76People already accusing and condemning Microsoft for it might or might not (want to) do in the future. Bravo. Also liamdawe, julespetrikov has been nothing but polite in his comments so far, we don't have to agree with him but how does 'his attitude stink'? Simply because he doesn't agree with our worldview?

I was quoting Jaycee talking about his attitude, not julespetrikov. Replies come after the quote, not before ;)

For a little history Jaycee has had a lot of outburst in our IRC channel (to the point of being banned more than once) for saying some really idiotic anti-Linux stuff.

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Note: I've updated the intro of the article to better reflect my own point vs what the source link contains, hope that clears any miscommunication on my part there.

Quoting: GuestYawn. Propaganda.

See above, hopefully my miss-wording there makes it clearer that's my thought on it, not what is actually said. Also, your attitude continually stinks, please stop.

Quoting: julespetrikov

Quoting: liamdaweWell, the source link also links to this post [External Link]. In there, it specifically states all versions of Windows will have the S mode. There would be no reason to add the S mode to every single version, if they weren't going to use it to start everyone off in future. It makes perfect sense that Microsoft will have S as the initial thing you see in future. If you think Microsoft wouldn't move like that, you've clearly not seen all the things they've tried in the past.

The entire point is that if Microsoft do move towards this in the desktop space, then it could be a disaster.

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Sure, but "all versions having an S mode" (amazingly stupid naming policy by the way. go microsoft!) doesn't necessarily mean that S mode will be defaulted on all rig or mobile device purchases or will default itself on current rigs; what it really means and the later article you base your own indicates that every Windows version (as in Home and Pro) will have an S mode available.

See above note as well :)

I still think they will eventually attempt a lock-in to their store on desktops, it's the ultimate goal in my opinion. Why wouldn't it be? They want people to use their store, so they get more income. Apple is doing very similar moves.

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