Quoting: ShmerlWell, you care but not enough to enable the project with your support. Does that sound better? As I said, without backers they won't be made at all.

No, that doesn't sound better. You're trying really hard to make me sound bad here.

Someone not departing with their money for promises and nothing more does not mean they don't care. Maybe I simply have much higher priorities with my money? Or maybe I don't feel like "investing" in risky projects that often have problems like this is a good idea?

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Quoting: liamdaweI never back kickstarters due to reasons like this. My money is mine, and I won't put money down to something that doesn't even exist.

Then you don't care about those projects. Fair enough. I back projects which I care about and which won't be made without backers.

Sorry, but that's flat out wrong.

I care about all projects that offer Linux support. I wouldn't have done this article to highlight the problems if I didn't care.

Not being willing to depart with my money to something that doesn't exist, does not mean I don't care. That's a very odd point of view.

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I agree with the above comment somewhat. This survey should always be taken with a huge truck load of salt.

The problem is that all developers we have spoken too always give us sales figures close to the survey numbers, so can the real number be that far off?

Honestly, unless everyone who dual boots for stuff like GTA suddenly did the survey on Windows it really wouldn't make that much difference.

Either way we are growing, as the total number of Steam users grows every month, so even if our % stays small or shrinks by a small amount, our overall number still grows.

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Quoting: salamanderrakeI think that Linux users should never back anything on kickstarter or any site like that ever again

Sounds too morbid and I think it's completely wrong. If you won't back crowdfunded projects, you won't get anything that otherwise could be created only outside legacy publishers system. How surprising is that?

I never back kickstarters due to reasons like this. My money is mine, and I won't put money down to something that doesn't even exist.

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Quoting: adolsonYou lose your right to bitch when the Linux version fails to materialize. After all, you just "invested" right? You didn't pay for anything.

No, you lose your right to complain if you don't invest. Investors have full right to be upset if their investment doesn't work out.

No, everyone has a right to complain if a developer promises something and doesn't deliver. You don't have to "invest" to be annoyed.

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Quoting: liamdaweUpdated the article again, and the Larian person has now deleted their comments.

Edit: Added in shots. Not very impressed at this.

How do you know the person is working for Larian?

It would be better be sure about the facts before making false accusations and blaming them for nothing. It would be great if GamingOnLinux would be quality over quantity.

Given the insight this person had, the answer is obvious. Then they were deleted...we are confident it was Larian.

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Updated the article again, and the Larian person has now deleted their comments.

Edit: Added in shots. Not very impressed at this.

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Looks like someone involved has noticed the post on the reddit that links to us: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/3510yh/larian_studios_working_on_a_new_game_while/cr0k7yx [External Link]

Throwaway for some insight.
We didn't know we would be doing a Mac/Linux port until we read the Kickstarter update ourselves. It was never planned, and by the time we did the Kickstarter, the game was nearing completion.

A lot of the middleware we used didn't work on Mac and Linux, and it was well to late to fix that. Instead of doing the port inhouse, it was sent to a different company in a different country (a lot cheaper). They did a lot of work, but initially, only for Mac. Linux was never a priority, the Steam Box was though. When that was delayed, so was the port. It also didn't help that the Mac port was hardly (or not even) profitable.

When the game was released and turned out to be a big hit, a lot of money was spent on making the game better. LOTS of stuff was added, which basically meant everybody worked on maintaining the existing code, and not working on the Linux version, which was still missing some middleware.

I know there was talk for a while of releasing the Linux branch, which wasn't in sync with Mac/Win. Which basically meant you'd never be able to play it with Windows/Mac friends, as I doubt we'd ever get the go ahead to resync the patches. Based on Swen's forum post, that's no longer the plan (thank fuck).

We're working on another big (really HUGE) update, which breaks compatibility with the 'old' one. We can only release the port when we release the update... Don't ask me when that is, but it will change the game considerably, so hopefully that will create some new excitement for you to play the game.

So yeah, the delays are shit, we don't like it either, but considering any time we spend on the Linux port is a financial loss... it's hard to convince the people in charge to make it a priority.

Reminding the people in charge you guys exist is a good idea though. Keep writing articles and spamming the twitter channel. It helps us to get this done as well.

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Added Larian's reply to the top of the article. I am curious to see what their information to come soon is, and how soon that is exactly.

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Quoting: XzylIt should also be known that there is a margin of error. Linux usage could be 1% exact and look like 1.03 one month and .97 the next and not of budged. Liam are you being paid to say lovely things about the 970? You seem to go on about it often.

You got me, I'm a paid Nvidia PR person :P

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Quoting: CybaCowboyThere's no reason why Valve Software couldn't have such a data-collection method as an "opt-in" feature and it would surely have to be more accurate than the way they currently do things...

Then it would simply be inflated by whatever platform chooses to opt-in more than the other. It wouldn't work.

We will never get an accurate representation, ever.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleSo, are the game designers, writers, artists, etc. all supposed to jump in and help finish the Linux port? No, they carry on with the next project.

The new game is going to be shown at E3 this year, you need programmers to make the game...that means less people supporting Divinity (they aren't a big company), so...you can see where I am going.

How long will it be until people stop supporting developers who don't deliver? A year is a long time.

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