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Quoting: Quote from ShmerlSo they consider DRM to be the integral part of their service? I really don't see a good reason for that.

Quoting: Quote from fowllgood thing is that Valve already offer DRM free games. DRM is not a part of steam but a option for developers who require DRM.
try for example "sir, you are being hunted" by double clicking on the ELF file, with steam closed.
the game starts and steam stay closed.

No, they don't. I already explained in the previous threads, that DRM-free means offering standalone packages / installers first (and then of course no additional requirements to run the client for running the game and so on). Steam fails at step one already.

what more than a DRM free download do you need form steam? you want it to install the game without running steam?
once the game is installed you can unistall steam and keep the game.

This + 1, which links into my answer, steam itself is NOT DRM. It is as much a burden as logging into a website to download rather than having a dedicated link to download.

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Quoting: Quote from liamdaweWell no, Steam is the most integral part of their entire service, they won't give that up, ever.

So they consider DRM to be the integral part of their service? I really don't see a good reason for that. Convenience of the service in some aspects has nothing to do with restrictions it also adds. I.e. nothing stops Steam from keeping the convenience while dropping the DRM nonsense. Except their unwillingness.

They don't see it as DRM remember, and it is questionable if it really is. Their "DRM" is actually a group of services offered to games like matchmaking, achievements, cards etc. It is a developers choice to use them, not Steam's.

If you want to hammer against DRM on Steam, talk to the game developers.

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Quoting: Quote from Half-ShotI wouldn't expect them to give out DRM free games because Steam.

Why? In many cases developers have no objections to DRM-free distribution (and sell the same games on HB and GOG DRM-free for example). It's only Steam service limitations prevent DRM-free options from being offered. So as I said - it's time for Valve to address that. And that would be welcome. Offering games at no charge but with DRM? No, thanks.

Well no, Steam is the most integral part of their entire service, they won't give that up, ever.

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Quoting: Quote from ShmerlIf Valve wants to make a positive move, they should start offering DRM free games, rather than "free" games. That would be a welcome step. And it's time for them to address the issue of DRM anyway.

Well TF2 and DOTA2 can't be DRM free, since they use Valve's servers.

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That's pretty kind of them, it is the least they can do though building from others work of course ;)

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Quoting: Quote from mannyreally cool game, also on steam:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/242820/ [External Link]

The embed for the store is in the article, I'm guessing it didn't show up for you.

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Quoting: Quote from Half-ShotWell, that just tells you just how far that 2% in the hardware stats goes. Really interesting read and I didn't realise how larger share Linux had of games. Even rust is a good number, since that's sold in the 100,000s already so its going really well.

Indeed, looking at Garry's blog considering how many they have sold (over 150,000 in the first two weeks), let's add another two weeks worth to 300,000 and keep it there up to today at that figure (it could easily be more by now).

They said their Linux base is about 0.4% so when you do the workings out if we didn't go any higher than 0.4% on Rust and with Steam's takings over 30% then Rust has easily made at least £12,500 from Linux gamers alone.

Let me put that into perspective for you, that's since 11th December 2013 just over a month ago.

I hope other developers take notice, a small market share doesn't mean crap earnings.

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Quoting: Quote from stanSome people in the comments on his blog are suggesting switching to Unity. I feel it would be the same mistake as using DirectX in the first place.

Yes simply telling someone to use Unity is a problem.

Something I highlighted in an editorial: http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-indie-game-developer-community-unity3d.2611

I think most people using one tool is very dangerous.

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Looks pretty decent, I have it downloaded so will give it a blast in a few days :D

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Quoting: Quote from berarmaMay I ask where did you get that idea about github public repositories from? The readme in the repository doesn't suggest an error in the copyright notice.

Huh? It's not a random idea about github repos, it's githubs rules.

There is an issue open to discuss it, as of yet no reply
https://github.com/unknownworlds/NS/issues/1 [External Link]

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