Hmm interesting, we don't exactly have long before we find out thanks for sharing hele.

Bundling a source2 game on activation of a SteamBox would be killer :D

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Quoting: FoH

Quoting: Quote from liamdaweYou need to look up the meaning of FUD, where have I lied exactly? I am not spreading dubious information at all, I am posting legitimate concerns, if you don't share them that doesn't make them FUD.

Comments like this need to stop it's "tireing".

I'm not acusing you of lying. From Wikipedia: "FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information."

FUD might be a bad choice of words for describing your outlook, but I do feel that you focus to much on Uncertainty and Doubt. You used "Fear" yourself in your update to this post. So, where you spreading your "fears" or your "legitimate concerns"? :) Semantics, right? If the possibly positive outcomes of things like this weighed up the "legitimate concerns", then it would appear less FUDdy. See what I mean?

I've been using Linux for five and a half years now. It moves forward everyday, and I see little reason for the negative attitude that I feel many have. I wouldn't want you to not voice your legitimate concerns, and you do a great job of checking the facts directly from the source (really, I applaud you for that!). I just want more positive outlooks to match the progress Linux is making! :D

(By the way, OmgUbuntu claimed in their article that SteamOS is based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, which would fit in nicely with the answer you got, no?)

sobkas:
I base my argument on the information in parenthesis above. You seem to have made up your mind that SteamOS isn't a "generic" Linux. Liam's update to the original post further proves that SteamOS is a "generic" Linux. See what I'm getting at?

The term FUD is only generally used in regards to businesses spreading untruths about another, it's not usually used when someone has concerns about something.

I am interested on what part exactly you feel I am being overly negative about? I didn't see my article being really negative about anything.

I said I didn't feel we needed the streaming anyway and that I hoped they continued to work on the traditional desktop client.

So what exactly have I been so negative about in your eyes?

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Article updated to confirm SteamOS games will work on desktop Linux.

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I will just throw this in: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1mywqk/steamos_officially_announced/ccdyuq6 [External Link]

Got a response from Valve about games and the normal Linux distros:
My question:
I was wondering about the SteamOS and if games that work on it will also work on normal Linux distros (Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc)?
And the response:
Yes.

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Quoting: FoHYou, liam, always finds the negative or FUD in a story :) I mean, couldn't you also turn this around and ask if it was a threat for the Windows client and the OS X client? After all, Valve could just tell people to install their free OS instead of making a client for those OSes! The Linux client will not be hurt by this, there must be vast amounts of code shared between the Linux client and the SteamOS Steam client. They have no reason to not keep the Linux stand-alone client.

If anything, this ought to be a strength for the Linux desktop. Other services will have an incentive to support SteamOS, and if they manage that, it's not far to support other distributions.

Sure, streaming might be a reason for some or even most developers to hold of on porting games to Linux. But what is the alternative? You can't demand that they port their entire back catalogue of games. Most likely they would want to target the native experience, streaming is not yet a viable alternative for every game and certainly doesn't suite hardcore gamers. I'm thinking streaming will make it easier for everyone to adopt SteamOS and Steam Boxes, and future games will support SteamOS/a Steam Box.

This FUD need to stop, it's so tireing!

You need to look up the meaning of FUD, where have I lied exactly? I am not spreading dubious information at all, I am posting legitimate concerns, if you don't share them that doesn't make them FUD.

Comments like this need to stop it's "tireing".

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Quoting: Sabun

Quoting: QuoteCould this be dangerous for the desktop Linux client?

To me it sounds like another Linux distro, except it's aiming for the desktop aggressively (like Ubuntu) and has financial backing from Valve. I'm actually pretty excited to try it out once it's downloadable.

If it's compatible with at least Ubuntu then I think Linux gaming will utterly explode next year.

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Loving the work these guys do, really awesome to see!

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Source 2 is a possibility as well after all they need an a new engine and what a better time to announce one?

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I just don't see them locking out desktop Linux, they would lock out their newest customer base by doing that.

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Quoting: Bumadar

Quoting: Quote from Mike Frett@Bumadar And who is to say it won't become some 'Android' type thing in the future, where it becomes incompatible with Desktop Linux?.

aye, sort of was my point, it will start of compatible and based on, but will go its own way if it wants to succeed

I highly doubt they will make it lose compatibility with mainstream desktop distro's.

Games would need to be recompiled for them yet again if they did an Android type of thing later on, if they where going to do that they would do it from the start.

They already have their own locked down store - Steam itself, they don't need to lock out the OS later on when they have the store that everyone has to use for Steam games anyway.

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