Quoting: furaxhornyxFor me, Linux is now finally a sane alternative to Windows, since the end of Windows 7 support, and despite all its remaining defaults (GPU drivers, dual monitor support, gaming support, music production, random peripherals not recognized properly...).

I remember the first time we tried Redhat 3.2 on a friend's computer, who just got it on a magazine, and as it was supposed to be "incredibly stable" compared to Windows... and how we managed to freeze the whole system in 3 minutes, simply by... inserting an audio CD (to be sure, we even rebooted and reproduced it :grin: ). We had a good laugh, and put the CD back in the magazine...

Since then, I tried several times to give Linux a chance to convince me: Mandrake (later renamed to Mandriva), Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, Puppy,... each time, the result was the same: nothing works, you're supposed to type commands like on the Amstrad from my childhood, and hope the documentation vaguely found on the internet is not obsolete...

But, in september 2019, I was looking again for a Linux distro, to be a replacement for Windows 7. I tried several, and found that Linux Mint was actually useable out-of-the-box (and with a nice DE too: Cinnamon). Then, I found out about Manjaro, which has a Cinnamon edition, and also, the AUR, which is probably one of the best selling point from a Windows user point of view: no need to manually (try to, ahem :whistle:) compile anything, it's all done under the hood.

And that's what made me switch. And seeing like 40% of my games in Steam were Linux native (and most of the one I was playing at the time: Dead Cells, Wizard of Legend, Slay the Spire,...) made me stay :smile:

Quoting: Philadelphus[...](I've just discovered I even wrote a very angry blog post [External Link] about it :whistle:)[..]

I read it, and I found a lot of similarities with my past experiences with Linux, so it's not only you :wink:

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ETA: Outside of gaming, I think Linux is perfect. You can do virtually anything you can imagine. While it is true that Adobe products present an issue, there are other powerful alternatives like Davinci Resolve.

While I agree that DaVinci Resolve is a great software (I am not a video editor though), I guess it is not enough to make a lot of people make the switch.

Also, when it comes to music production, Linux is still very far from being a viable alternative ; even if I hope that Bitwig releasing their DAW for Linux will help change this in the future.

Ugh, I wanted to wipe my Arch install last night!
1) I have Librewolf installed... since it's from AUR it has to compile. Well it actually made YouTube stutter while it compiled (I have a AMD 5900X), first time in a long time I've seen anything do that.
2) it took so long to compile still, and I was doing other things, that it then prompted me for the sudo password, as enough time had gone by where it'd need to be re-authenticated. Problem was, I didn't notice it prompting for a while, and it gave up. Guess what that means? I get to recompile Librewolf again...

Pretty sure I removed that at one point because it was taking so long to compile, and this isn't the first time it's done this to me...

Anyhow, the AUR is still questionable in my mind, and even the Arch devs don't readily recommend it. So if you're going to use AUR, keep it to a minimum, it's far too easy for malware to be installed on your system with it. Also the packages get orphaned randomly when people decide they don't want to keep maintaining the PKGBUILD. The fortunate part is the PKGBUILDs are simple and most should be able to read / write them.

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Quoting: ArehandoroReminder to myself; Visit Finland and discover the land of our forefather 😅

Quoting: wvstolzingI'll never forget my first 'experience' (?!) with Linux. I must have been 1993 (or early 1994) at the latest. I had a friend whose father was a math professor; at his home office he had a nice 486 with a DOS partition, as well as a Linux partition. On this PC he'd let us play games (mostly Civilization).

One day we somehow borked the DOS installation (it must have been a stupid minor mistake like deleting CONFIG.SYS while trying to adjust SoundBlaster IRQ values or something like that). I convinced my friend that if we formatted the harddrive, and reinstalled DOS, everything would be fine.

... and that was the end of the poor guy's dual-boot setup.

I saw Enlightenment DR13 on the web and wanted a prettier desktop, that started my road down the Linux path.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyWhenever I plug in a USB at work, it tells me there's something wrong with the USB and I need to fix it. Then it works fine. I made the mistake of letting Windows try to fix it once, thinking maybe there was actually something wrong. It ratfucked my USB. These days at work I'm getting multiple popups per day telling me I'm supposed to be updating software. I'm not supposed to be updating software, the IT people update the software. But evidently they are not able to get Windows (or maybe its closed source software ecosystem) to shut up, because you don't control Windows, Microsoft does. So many annoying little things, mostly stemming from that basic fact: Microsoft controls Windows, and they use it for their ends, to meet their needs, not yours.

OMG, this! Though I haven't had it ratfuck my USB drives yet, it does always insist something is wrong with them...

Oh and our IT knows they're being annoying, because the majority of the people I work with on my side of things use Macs. I can't stand them, mainly because they try so hard to be a good Linux Desktop, but insist on being an Apple one... So I ended up with a Windows laptop, and when there is an update pending, they start with an hourly 'your computer needs to be restarted to update' and then gets nastier as it goes and tells you if there are 20 notifications, they'll just reboot. Thing is, in my job, there are times when I'm working a full 24 hours straight trying to get things done... if Windows ever rebooted in the middle of that, that Dell is going to be defenestrated!

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Quoting: slaapliedjeNice! I thought Spore was an awesome idea from reading about it... but when it was released, it ended up being basically just a RTS with bland units you supposedly had a choice in evolving. So much potential wasted. Will have to try this out!

From what I recall Spore was intended to be more scientifically focused, this is the original concept gameplay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpK1rZ3tkU4 [External Link]

Going to have to try Thrive out too, Spore fell quite short of its potential.

Yeah, I messed with the demo when it came out, loved it. Then got the full game and it rapidly just turned into an RTS where you had goofy looking characters fighting each other. Such a awesome idea, that they wussied out on and made a generic game.

Spore was so thoroughly disappointing, until recently I thought Peter Molyneux had a leading role in its development...

Yes, Peter. I'm still bitter about Godus.

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Quoting: ArtenGood upscaling is crucial for handhald device, if you want just conect it to display and play on larger screen...

I'd say for handhelds that have relatively low resolution in general, upscaling is not so useful.

Ha, yeah I think his point was 'when hooked to a large screen' like you can do with the Switch, and should be able to with the Steam Deck. What I think AMD / Valve need to figure out, is for the Official Steam Deck Dock (OSDD?) they slip in a bit of GPU power so a large 4k screen looks great.

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Nicest thing about Linux (as a desktop amongst other things) is that it never makes you feel like you're renting. No pop up ads, no forced behavior due to bad UI design (you don't like the path Gnome is going, move to KDE! Don't like KDE or Gnome, go to XFCE! Or just piece together your own set up! Just drop GUI altogether and sit in terminals all day!)

Android went with the 'hey it's free' and use the Linux kernel, but then slapped the 'well it's free.. but you'll pay one way or another... whether through ads, microtransaction games, agreeing we gather your data, tracking, etc.

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Quoting: STiATIt took me a month to figure out that I need to force full composite pipeline on nvidia cards to get less tearing and stuttering after not having had one in 10+ years. And I thought the 3070Ti probably wasn't a that good choice after all. It's doing pretty well now. And why the heck do they still require this when it's a non-issue on AMD cards?

I've never had to turn that on.

Yeah, me neither. The few games I've ever had that issue with... well I didn't, as I turn on vsync :grin:

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Quoting: RedfaceI mentioned in this thread that Lutris is in 21.04, and it will be available in 21.10 when it releases too.
This is an important and in my opinion good way that Ubuntu is based on Debian. If you want a new package in Ubuntu you have to get it into Debian first. Its not only to not duplicate work but also to keep Ubuntu close to Debian.

I have already gone into that they do not build packages to have _ubuntu_ in them. The version of Lutris in 21.10 has no ubuntu in it for example: https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/lutris [External Link]
And while packaging is an important part to create a distribution, its not all, like for example building is important, where I have posted some links already, and we have not got into supporting multiple releases.

If that basically was no work the Popos and Mint for example would probably not rely on Ubuntu repositories for the bulk of their packages.

And I do have a lot of respect of Debian, it was in fact the first Linux distribution I installed on my Amiga in the 90ies.

They still need to pull upstream packages from Debian as Debian has tons of volunteers and some paid developers. So even if they pull the source with debian patches, then patch their own stuff, they'd still go away if Debian did.

What's funny about PopOS, they take Ubunut... then have their own repos. They had Lutris before Ubuntu had it available. I'd have to look at the timeline, but they may have had it packaged before Debian (which I guess leads to the 'gaming centric' statement? I don't know I'd think if it were gaming centric, they would have installed Steam by default. :P

What happens when Ubuntu stops listening to fans at all, and just drops 32bit support completely, like they wanted to? Wonder how many people will leave for another Distro.

I've thought a few times of putting Debian on my Amiga... then figured why bother, I have it on so many other machines. Though one of the funny things is, the non-x86 Linux I always though would miss out on Flash... but now Flash is dead!

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: slaapliedjeHa, this still makes me think we should have a different section for 'Don't Buy, it doesn't work in Proton', as it's seriously getting to the point where there are less titles that don't work than there are ones that do.

We have to pick and choose what we cover really because we don't have enough funding to constantly buy games, and most AA/AAA ignore us completely so it's down to my own choices.

Oh for sure, I wasn't suggesting you personally buy games that may or may not work. I was saying that we could have a dedicated section in the forum for people who have tried a game, and it didn't work and then warn not to try it. I know we have ProtonDB, but the accuracy on some of them is a little off. Like people will say it's Platinum when you have to do a bunch of tweaks to get it to work, though after it works flawlessly. So in that case they should be Gold... I have a huge library of games I can test and report on.

Doesn't even have to be Proton games, some native games have stopped working well or at all, as well.

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Ha, this still makes me think we should have a different section for 'Don't Buy, it doesn't work in Proton', as it's seriously getting to the point where there are less titles that don't work than there are ones that do.

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