Quoting: CyberRat

Quoting: slaapliedjeI do know that Elite ran at about 100fps less than it does on Windows, and in VR, that kills your stomach when you try to maneuver in a space station!.

Elite Dangerous? since when does that run on linux?

It has been running for a while now. Amazing, right? It does work in VR, just needs more performance. Though I don't think I have tried it since Proton 5.0+

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While I've been far too busy to give this a try, nvidia works fine on SteamVR. Then again, maybe it is because I have a 2080 RTX? Last time anyhow it's worked for me, I haven't loaded it up in a while. I do know that Elite ran at about 100fps less than it does on Windows, and in VR, that kills your stomach when you try to maneuver in a space station!
I'll have to see how it performs with newer drivers now that Debian unstable has updated.

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Quoting: CreakI'm always a bit puzzled about controllers on Linux.. Why do they all need a user-space driver to be installed (except for the PS4 controller)? Can't it be included in the kernel and call it a day?

Other than that, I just paired my PS4 controllers using a basic Bluetooth dongle and it was recognized out-of-the-box on Fedora 31, no tinkering with config files, nothing to install, nothing to compile, no need to launch Steam to make it work, it "just works".

Only flaw: it has some lag. But I wonder if that is coming from my machine or my Bluetooth dongle. Do you know a good Bluetooth dongle I could buy?

Note on the Steam Controllers: I have 2 Steam Controllers at home, hoping I would find them useful one day, but honestly, after testing with my PS4 controllers (and even despite the lag), I really don't see what's good in them. They only work if you launch Steam (or, once again, a user-space application), and even with that very few games actually work. I tried with a few games like Alien: Isolation, Overcooked 2, Team Fortress, and it's always a bit clunky.. it feels like it's just some kind of not so good keyboard emulation (I had to boost the "mouse" sensibility to the max in Alien: Isolation for instance in order to have something playable, eventually K+M was so much more enjoyable).

I love the Steam Controllers, but you are tight in that you kind of either have to spend the time configuring it, or hope someone else has done a decent job of it. It rarely is a plug in and play affair.

Now to completely annihilate any latency, I bought (had to import... why Thrustmaster do you not sell it in the US?) A Thrustmaster eSwap. Now I have a LOT of controllers, and maybe it is a case of 'you have to love it because you spent a crazy amount on it', but I do love the controller, and it works great on Linuclx and the PS4.
Only downside is the firmware and configuration utility for it is Windows only. It has some bottom buttons that replicate the top four, which are nice for when you need to use the right stick at the same time!

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Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: appetrosyan

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: appetrosyanMarketing wise, is it wise to release a game you developed in house, for a hostile platform, and only then release it for "steam", OS? I mean I understand that they have no faith in other publishers. But WTF? Valve? It's your OS. If you want for it to make sense for people to install it, add some incentive!

Hostile platform? No faith in other publishers? What are you even talking about?

Put it differently.

How do you expect other people to support Steam OS and Steam consoles, if you yourself, release what should be a steam os exclusive on Windows first, and only patch support for your in house platform post-launch.

Steam OS exclusivity would be just stupid. And that's not what Steam OS is for.

Not to mention Valve is completely against exclusives.

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Quoting: sub

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: mike456What's this teleportation thing, can't you simply walk in vr like in non vr 3d games?

Basically, it is easier on most people's brains to point and click to move.

You can walk around in the play space physically, but of course you are limited by walls and cable length. Some games implement an arm swinging method to move, which seems to work pretty well for others. But a lot of games provide various options. One common one is to kind of put blinders on as you turn (the motion makes some ill if you smoothly try moving with say a mouse / controller, because your vision is sliding around while your head is not). If you can stand and play Windlands standing and not fall over or puke, you should be able to handle anything in VR.

How is it doing for you?
Do you face significant motion sickness?

I don't get any motion sickness. There have been times when a game / operating system crash happens and your world goes from being fluid to stopping dead in its tracks that is a bit unnerving, but that hasn't happened with it in a while.
The thing to get used to of course is getting a good fit on your head, and the smaller than human Field of View. Definitely feels like you are looking through a face mask. Though these days, that might be the new normal.

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Quoting: mike456What's this teleportation thing, can't you simply walk in vr like in non vr 3d games?

Basically, it is easier on most people's brains to point and click to move.

You can walk around in the play space physically, but of course you are limited by walls and cable length. Some games implement an arm swinging method to move, which seems to work pretty well for others. But a lot of games provide various options. One common one is to kind of put blinders on as you turn (the motion makes some ill if you smoothly try moving with say a mouse / controller, because your vision is sliding around while your head is not). If you can stand and play Windlands standing and not fall over or puke, you should be able to handle anything in VR.

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The fun thing is to watch people in VR for the first time. They kind of want to feel like they are in a car, so when it goes forward, they lean into it. But since a car has slight pull back from g-forces, they end up sitting in place. Since that g-force push won't exist when standing with a helmet on, they lean and drift way forward.
Especially extreme when playing games like Skyrim, where you can have smooth movements instead of teleport.

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Quoting: wvstolzing

Quoting: LinasEvolution might not be a thing of beauty, but it gives me access to all my mails, calendars, contacts, etc. via Exchange Web Services, Gmail, etc. and it just works most of the time, even with 2-factor authentication. It can also open IMAP mailboxes with gigabytes of messages that make Thunderbird choke.

I have not yet seen anything remotely as feature-complete as Evolution in the area, and consider it an essential tool in my office-survival kit. I sure wish it received more love, because it surely deserves it. <3

Does it use maildir or mbox for the local folders?

It uses maildir. So you have .local/share/evolution/mail/local/cur, new, tmp folders and folders.db file in there.

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Quoting: Cyba.Cowboy

Quoting: slaapliedjeI can't stand Outlook, but love Evolution.

So much wasted potential.

Evolution looks like an e-mail client from the '90s, and there is still plenty of functionality that needs to be added... I really wish they'd do more to work on it.

Mozilla's Thunderbird is nice, but it lacks certain functionality without extensions,

Ha, I actually like that it looks like something from the 90s. I can never find anything in Outlook and find it too colorful. Granted I also have been an email administrator for almost two decades, and can't stand HTML emails... just stop people, it was never meant for your garbage flashing signatures that are larger than your actual message!

You don't need fancy looks for it to be highly functional. But yeah, if I am looking for a full groupware suite vs just an email client, I will use Evolution. If I just need email, I tend to go for claws.

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Quoting: razing32

Quoting: slaapliedjeHere is an interesting side effect from all the working from home. Now people will truly see why Cable internet vs DSL is going to suck.
Also would laugh if non-streaming bandwidth and Netflix and both slowed down greatly by Comcast due to lack of net neutrality.
Crazy times we live in.

Where do you live exactly ?? US ?
Most net in Central and Eastern Europe is blazing fast and streaming is not an issue.
But to be honest , most people pirate s**t :whistle:

Yeah, the US. Where we are too stupid/greedy to get our acts together and just declare internet access as a Utility. Comcast has put streaming bandwidth caps on people for services like Netflix... because the FCC screwed us out of Net Neutrality.

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