Quoting: DenaeHi guys,
I'm Marta and I represent the developer - Tate Multimedia. Thanks for all those nice comments and words of support. It's also really nice to read that you like our game ;-)

If you have any feedback - I'm all ears. And if you have any friends that you would like to recommend Steel Rats - I would be delighted - but no pressure there. :-)

Played a bit of it, very nice! Unfortunately I'm not going to have time to play it today, since I'm doing a hard drive swap for both my OS drives today and doing a recovery for someone. I thought my days of having to do tech support for people was over, but still have that one person....

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Quoting: FutureSutureGlad to hear it. I will purchase the game once the developers move on so as to have the complete experience. I look forward to it! Them mentioning Castlevania as an inspiration has me excited!

This amuses me. In essence you're saying that immediate purchases of games is a bad thing to do, because then they penny pinch you with DLCs and such. I actually agree with this, but I wonder how many people would punish developers in this way until they realize that we don't want DLCs, just give us the game, and give us patches or if you're going to include free DLC (which this one is, so may as well buy it now, and play it later once it's complete).

Too many developers these days (I'm looking at you Paradox) DLC the shit out of their games, so keep making profit on them years and years later. It's not necessarily a bad thing (again referring to Paradox who keeps their older games relevant) but it certainly can be (like Paradox charging for silly things like sound tracks and art packs).

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Just bought it, time to give it a shot once it's downloaded. (Got to do something about getting a faster internet...)

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Did they finally fix the Steam Controller with it? last few times I tried to play it some of the buttons worked, but not enough to be able to play it.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: GuestHesitating... Should I try to complete Dungeon Master on my Amiga (MiSTer FPGA) or this one or the former then the latter ?

Ha, so I actually started playing Dungeon Master on my Amiga (A4000 w/68060) quite some time ago, I need to finish it off (re-installed the 3.1.4 over the weekend, now just need to get WHDload set up).

While I beat DM on my Atari ST back in the day, I never did complete Chaos Strikes Back. So my plan is to complete DM again, and then import my characters into Chaos Strikes Back.

I loved Dungeon Master. I completed it. Completed it again. Completed it with 3 characters. Completed with 2 characters (oh my, they become godlike by the end) then finally gave up while trying to beat it with one character. The spell cooldowns were too difficult to manage in certain fights and you just don't put out enough sword damage as a single character.

Bloodwych was another favourite - I played that split-screen with a friend on his Atari ST. Two, four-character parties rocking around a massive dungeon. Awesome.

Finally, if you like this genre and have three (very) close friends, the Amiga version of Hired Guns was sublime because you each played one character in a party of four, quad-screen. Two characters played on mouse (the Amiga could handle two mice plugged in) and two on keyboard. Amazing. Great music too!

Aww great! Now theres the idea to play Dungeonmaster back again, because of you both! ;-)

Do it! Truly a classic! It's amazing that FTL never ported Sundog to anything. So you still have to play it on the ST. That's another fantastic game I'd love to get back to to play.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: GuestHesitating... Should I try to complete Dungeon Master on my Amiga (MiSTer FPGA) or this one or the former then the latter ?

Ha, so I actually started playing Dungeon Master on my Amiga (A4000 w/68060) quite some time ago, I need to finish it off (re-installed the 3.1.4 over the weekend, now just need to get WHDload set up).

While I beat DM on my Atari ST back in the day, I never did complete Chaos Strikes Back. So my plan is to complete DM again, and then import my characters into Chaos Strikes Back.

I loved Dungeon Master. I completed it. Completed it again. Completed it with 3 characters. Completed with 2 characters (oh my, they become godlike by the end) then finally gave up while trying to beat it with one character. The spell cooldowns were too difficult to manage in certain fights and you just don't put out enough sword damage as a single character.

Bloodwych was another favourite - I played that split-screen with a friend on his Atari ST. Two, four-character parties rocking around a massive dungeon. Awesome.

Finally, if you like this genre and have three (very) close friends, the Amiga version of Hired Guns was sublime because you each played one character in a party of four, quad-screen. Two characters played on mouse (the Amiga could handle two mice plugged in) and two on keyboard. Amazing. Great music too!

Ha, that's some nuts to complete it with only two characters!

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Quoting: GuestHesitating... Should I try to complete Dungeon Master on my Amiga (MiSTer FPGA) or this one or the former then the latter ?

Ha, so I actually started playing Dungeon Master on my Amiga (A4000 w/68060) quite some time ago, I need to finish it off (re-installed the 3.1.4 over the weekend, now just need to get WHDload set up).

While I beat DM on my Atari ST back in the day, I never did complete Chaos Strikes Back. So my plan is to complete DM again, and then import my characters into Chaos Strikes Back.

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Quoting: Nevertheless

Quoting: TcheyI'd probably love to love this game, but the real time killed my will. I disliked the Grimrocks for the same reason. For me, this kind of games (RPG grid based crawlers) "must" be turn based. The last one to actually pleased me was Starcrawlers, who did many things "well" (but failed to provide a "less combat, more xp" option).

Funny, the realtime aspect is something I really enjoy! I think it enriches gameplay with the possibility to outmaneuver your enemies or lure them to dangerous places like trap doors or steam vents, etc..

I also do not enjoy these games that much if they are real-time.
I do find it more acceptable if the game just has one character, though. So I'll probably give this game a go.

If it is real-time and you have a whole party (like Grimrock), then combat just devolves into clicking everyone's main attack as fast as you can while you play Dance Dance Revolution in a fantasy dress. Because first person real-time with so many "moving" parts just doesn't allow for any real strategical thinking (like careful spell selection, etc.) and is thus extremely easy (honestly, combat in Grimrock is laughably easy). That's the exact opposite of tactical combat and strategy, it becomes an arcade game.
Or take something like Might & Magic. I love that game, but the combat is just "equip everyone with bows and become a living machine gun" for 80% of the game, and the rest is mostly spell buffing.
But with only one character, even real-time usually leaves you with enough time to do some proper tactical thinking, and as the developers know that, the challenge is also higher and requires you to actually do that. Well... in the optimal case, don't know if that is true for this game.

These are all very much Dungeon Master clones, and Dungeon Master was party based and real time. It literally created a new Genre of games. A lot of people missed this Genre, so hence there are now quite a few new ones around. Too bad Legends of Grimrock 2 wasn't released for Linux.

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They don't need to sell video content to get the living room feeling, just have some netflix/amazon prime/etc 'apps' in SteamOS/Big picture mode.

I bought Conman through Steam, otherwise yeah never bothered with their other videos.

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I just started playing this last night, pretty sweet game, felt like playing a dungeon crawl, and with steampunk, it looks pretty sweet.

Was playing it with my Steam Controller through big picture mode and it worked fine.

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