"From my observations Vulkan seems smoother, with little to no hitching/stutters, where as OpenGL did show some notable hitching/stutters for brief moments."

That's main selling point for me regarding Vulkan.

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Quoting: PeciskAnyone care to get technical response from HTC what's holding up Vive release on Linux? Lack of resources? Drivers (admittedly, they might for AMDGPU driver to be properly released and tested)? Something else?

I suspect it is most likely all major resources being thrown at doing Windows release ASAP, and Linux version being held up due of AMD driver situation and overall testing.

It is still wrong to not to say straight up front that Linux support won't arrive at release. They knew that most likely for some time now.

If Valve were a person they would turn up a week late to their mom's funeral.

They just can't keep deadlines.

Never ever.

It is not, however, Valve project. It is HTC. And Valve did provide OpenVR libraries for Linux.

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Quoting: KimyrielleA bit strange coming from the gaming company that's pushing Linux harder than any other. But it makes a -little- bit of sense from a business perspective not to wait. After all, the Rift already launched, and in business it's usually not a good idea to let your competition beat you to the market if you can help it. Being first on market is a tremendous advantage and if you leave the Rift alone there for too long they will scoop up market shares that will be very hard to gain back.

It would be very stupid for HTC to held up Windows release just because of Linux. HTC is cash strapped, they are banking a lot with Vive VR - and frankly I hope they will get bigger market share but Facebook spares no expense at advertising shit out of OR, despite being inferior product - still it doesn't justify their poorly managed communication with Linux community - again. This is just bad, and companies should understand it just creates quite a bad start with community.

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Anyone care to get technical response from HTC what's holding up Vive release on Linux? Lack of resources? Drivers (admittedly, they might for AMDGPU driver to be properly released and tested)? Something else?

I suspect it is most likely all major resources being thrown at doing Windows release ASAP, and Linux version being held up due of AMD driver situation and overall testing.

It is still wrong to not to say straight up front that Linux support won't arrive at release. They knew that most likely for some time now.

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It was very obvious it won't arrive with release, due of lack of infrastructure around VR in Linux - neither OR or Vive gave any hints that it is coming any time soon, while rushing their Windows releases out.

I think due of price range we can relax quite a bit - unless VR drops to 400 USD, it really won't impact viability of SteamOS at this point. However I would like to see support delivered as soon as possible - otherwise this looks like bait and switch, which is in fact illegal in many places on Earth.

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Question - can you use OR while being offline? If not, then what's the point?

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Quoting: GuestLinux is still largely unknown and when it is known it's often thought of as something too hard and horrible to use. Even many "geeks" have this outdated attitude about Linux.

And also there's certain doom and gloom and disbelief because of years of broken promises...and it is somewhat self-fulfilling prophecy at this point.

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Quoting: barottoLet's face it, every statistical indicator tells us that Linux gaming is practically non-existant, with percentages so low to be almost considered just noise.
If games are still published with (seldom good) Linux support, it's only because Valve, which is now terrified by the Windows-XBox convergence, is pouring big dollars to convince the publishers to do so.

And this is hardly surprising, given the fact that there are zero-nada-null-zilch reasons for a PC gamer to not use Windows.
Games (the very few that have Linux support) perform worse 90% of the times, no modding tools, no recording/streaming tools, no community tools, very limited hardware/configuration support for controllers, lots of games don't even work on AMD cards ffs! .... etc.

Given the grim situation, I would say 0.85% is a surprisingly high value.

Fact you throw everything in one bag despite each case being different - controllers are very well supported on Linux, OBS says hello regarding streaming and recording, no community tools? What, do we need some special Skype version to be considered? Lot of games don't even work on AMD cards properly even on Windows platform.

But sure, be that "Linux is doomed" guy. It is cheap, and false, but you knew already that anyway.

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Quoting: liamdaweArticle updated, section that was likely wrong removed. Don't want people to get the wrong idea :)

Onto my usual point: At face value you might assume Linux use is just dropping. It's likely that growth in general has just outpaced Linux growth. So don't be too sad about it.

You are still way too optimistic here. Kill it, kill it with fire :D

Just kidding :p

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Must be spring or something, you are way too optimistic for Linux gamer.

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