Quoting: Keyrock

Quoting: NyamiouThat was easy. There is a book called "1001: Video Games You Must Play Before You Die", on the back cover there is Lara Croft. It's a Tomb Raider!!!

The reboot? Ugh. I mean it would be a great get for Linux as it's a big name game and very popular, but I hated that game with a passion.

Personally I loved the reboot. For Lara was written and looked like an actual woman this time. Well, the story was good in general. Also, the game was very accessible for someone like me, who otherwise isn't a fan of (or even good at) platformers, so that was a plus.

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That is truly one of the better RPGs ever made, so I am going to support it despite I already played it when it was still considered new. :D

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Quoting: aristoriasMy problem with this kind of games:
It picks up a bunch of very successful templates and copies elements randomly with good intention in mind:
Be the AAA super hyper version of something existing.
But fact is:
* It is low budget
* I don't want to insult anyone: it looks like it is backed up with rather mediocre know how
* It is early access and the very dubiously formulated final version will probably emerge long after the lifetime of the product (if at all)
* Due to the fact it's a mixture of multiple existing templates it does many things but nothing good enough to be not just another boring nothing-really-finished random early access title

Errrm, which game (or creative product in general) is NOT at least partially inspired by existing concepts? That's a funny comment to make, particularly in an industry where the dominating publishers haven't really released any halfway original product in like one and a half decades.

"It's low budget" applies to...pretty much all indie productions. Some of which are really great games and arguably better than anything the big name publishers put out in this millennium. Budget is a very poor indicator of quality, particularly when looking at the aforementioned major publishers that pump huge budgets into uninspired yearly updates of the same two dozen games they have been publishing since like 1995 and all they are adding is a new explosion or two.

About Early Access: Is your comment just yet another unfounded bashing of Early Access titles in general or are you basing your statement on actual facts that might indicate that the final product will never get finished? Just curious. Personally I am tired of all the Early Access bashing. Yes, a few titles clearly abused it. Many others worked fine. A few bad apples are not sufficient grounds to bash everyone using the concept.

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It's art and as such I can appreciate it. But as a product, it's one of the most stupid ideas I've ever heard of. We complain about planned obsolescence of gadgets, but we'd accept it if programmed in software? Seriously?

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Amazing work! :)

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Quoting: Ser Eduardo MogambroWell, to some extent, I actually do, because as I said, if the whole economy is player driven you need something to sustain demand for the goods produced, else everybody will have the best armor for his playstyle in a few months and the economy would be dead.

So the pkers are what make the smiths and merchants and all the other player-types relevant. If there is no dead, there is no "always growing market".

I agree with most things you said, but this statement is economically spoken, not correct. Lootable corpses do nothing to create additional demand, as the items taken from your corpse remain in circulation and can be sold or used by the looter. The only things that actually create demand for new items in MMO is either a) growth in players, b) gear obsolescence (e.g. due to levelling) and c) item degradation/destruction.

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Quoting: Ser Eduardo Mogambro

Quoting: Kimyrielle

Quoting: Ignis>plus if you die you lose everything on you

Seriously? Pass…

oO

Seriously???, indeed.
Lootable corpses is probably one of the more silly ideas ever brought to MMOs. I guess if that's a feature of that game, I shall pass, too.

Well, I don't want to argue, but then you're simply not the target audience.

Imagine if you didn't lose anything if you'd die (like in real life, eh? ;)) at some point there would simply be no need to get better weapons and stuff. We are talking player made economy here!

Yes, I guess me not being their target audience is indeed pretty much the reason why I never played one. I don't think it's the sandbox concept per se that's turning me off, it's the hardcore features like the aforementioned lootable corpses that do that. I am really not a hardcore player by any stretch of imagination and despite I play games for a definite non-casual amount of time, I prefer my games generally to be not very challenging and/or frustrating. Which probably means I am falling through a lot of cracks in the current portfolio of prevalent game designs, although I like to believe that there are many people like me around that are technically neither hardcore nor casual.

However, I don't think that sandbox games automatically imply having a total focus on PK gameplay any more than themepark games would need to be focused exclusively on raids. I rather blame that on MMOs being a segment that's generally not very innovative (to phrase it politely). Most themepark games -are- WoW clones despite there is no god-given reason for that, and most sandbox games are perfectly interchangeable as well. Tbh, having read Albions' feature list, there is not a single idea in there that we haven't seen in another game before, and the only reason we we're even talking about it here in the first place is that it will have Linux support. Other than that, there seem to be at least a half dozen games exactly like it out there already.

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Quoting: KelsI don't wanna hang out with criminals in real life either, why would I want to in my leisure time?

There's a reason people started to take PK out of MMOs.

^ Umm, yes, this.

The problem with some old-fashioned MMO designs is that they assume that jerks don't exist. Well...I am afraid that assumption is not entirely correct, so all these designs led to a decade of drama and frustration in those games.
Like you, I don't want to spend my spare time with jerks either. And while I cannot entirely avoid said jerks logging into the same online games I do, at least I don't want to notice them for the jerks they are. Which means that good MMOs feature "jerk proof designs". Among things that rules out non-consensual PvP as far as I am concerned.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeWow, freaking wussies.

I stopped reading there. People like you are the very reason features like that should never be implemented.

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Quoting: Ignis>plus if you die you lose everything on you

Seriously? Pass…

oO

Seriously???, indeed.
Lootable corpses is probably one of the more silly ideas ever brought to MMOs. I guess if that's a feature of that game, I shall pass, too. I'd rather boot into Windows to play MMOs than letting some random PKer that stabbed me in the back have all the stuff I worked my behind off for weeks to get. Or leave it at home in the first place for the fear of losing it, defeating the point of having nice stuff in the first place.
I have seriously no idea who in their right mind would think a feature like this would attract a meaningful number of players to an online game. *shakes head*

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