Quoting: Dribbleondo

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Dribbleondo> TF2 feels like it has no identity, it feels…bland.

Strongly and violently disagree.

I've no doubt plenty will, what games people like is a very subjective thing.

But it already had great vibrant characters 10 years before Overwatch, and they already had shorts about the characters and comics and... hats! Many many hats! :(

I just don't see it. To me, TF2 has such a basic and uninteresting design to it. It has as much character as any other shooter out there. I mean, just look at the classes, they're extremely generic. You have a Medic, a Soldier and so on. Where's the character in that? There is none.

Yes, A mad scientist medic who uses a healy-beam medi-gun to heal people, a soldier who can rocket jump and is overly patriotic to the extreme. The scout who is cocky and boastful 24/7, The spy, enigmatic, hard to play, and very rewarding when played well. Totally boring classes that have different weapons for different situations. The game has character, you're just not seeing it.

All men, all masculine, all stereotypes from 20 years ago.

They are diverse for the time they where created. Now, they are bland and lack any interesting characteristic for me.

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Quoting: Guest

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Quoting: bgh251f2Also there is a complete lack of diversity among the chars. No women is really saddening. And no, Pyro doesn't count because there is no way to know that (s)he is a women.

... LOL, K. Overwatche(d) can keep that little political bombshell, it has no place in gaming. There are female models if it offends you that much :) I do know women who play TF2, gender has never been an issue for them.

How wanting both sexes (not genders) on a videogame is political? You have a real problem if you think that way.
He didn't say he was offended btw, also i know a lof of women that plays Overwatch every day but i don't know any PERSON that plays TF2 today. But somehow women characters are political and have no place in gaming.
Having a woman in BattlefieldV was political, a way to wash war criminals with SJW bullshit (the only women fighting in the WW2 were soviet women, but let's give a more feminine face to capitalist countries), having woman in a game like Overwatch is not political at all, there is a fucking GORILLA in the game and that's great.

Not only Gorilla, there's a hamster and a robot. And they are so diverse when playing. Of course lots of it happens because of the different time the games are available. TF2 is a very old game.

But yeah, I want more women on game, playing and as characters. Gay men too would be good. Don't know a game where I can play as a gay men, except of Mass Effect and Dragon Age series. And I'd like less "faggot and gay" being used as insult during gameplay. No wonder I almost never play multiplayer anymore. Or why i'm running from games with plot. Only once having a story for me would be cool.

It's not about politics, it's about having a game character I can identify myself with in a game that's not a dating simulator.

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The main issue with TF2 for me is that the game really got worse after going free. It's harder and less fun.

Also there is a complete lack of diversity among the chars. No women is really saddening. And no, Pyro doesn't count because there is no way to know that (s)he is a women.

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It seems nice. The price seems a bit problematic for me(coming from Brazil where the currency is not great right now) will keep an eye on it.

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Quoting: SalvatosI think the operative words in bgh251f2's comment were that "you can't sell them anywhere you want and cant dispose of them in other ways" (emphasis mine). That much is true and indeed different from physical goods.

Exactly, all the discussion is based on difference between physical and digital, no this digital one and others.

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Quoting: Guest- Electricity. Physical cards can be played anywhere, by candle light.

- Playing Concentration ("Memory") where the cards don't stay perfectly rectilinear. MUCH more challenging!

- Playing some lightning rounds of Spit. Virtual cards would be utterly hopeless in such a fast-paced game.

- Knowing how an actual hand of Solitaire is dealt.

- Building a house of cards. Excellent fine-motor training.

- 52 pickup. A classic!

- Tossing cards into a hat. Again, more random effects in an actual environment.

The first one remember me when me and some friends played GOT 2nd edition in candlelight after a storm disable electricity in the area.

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Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: TcheyI really don't know how they could think this economy model was a good idea for a VIRTUAL cards game.

What's the difference between a virtual and a physical card game?

whats the difference between vinyl and mp3?

Real Scarcity and property of the bought thing. Virtual cards don't have real scarcity, they are infinite, so price is less organic.

Also they don't deteriorate and you don't really own them. You can't sell them anywhere you want and cant dispose of them in other ways (give them away, borrow them, make a poster with them, etc).

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Well another issue is the lack of regional pricing that all but locks people from outside US and Europe from the game.

I don't know if it can be changed due to the real money aspects of the game.

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Quoting: bgh251f2

Quoting: GuestThis is so stupid... Just reveal it already. Or don't talk about it at all until the games are released and we can buy them. What is the point of polluting our social media with vague stuff with no solid info?

I believe the answer is simple: it's not pollution and it generates engagement with the community.

What "engagement with the community"? Care to elaborate? All they are doing is telling us "hey we might be working in some new games, we won't tell though". That's it.

Well no shit Sherlock, it is quite obvious they would work on more ports, or else they would close the company...

There is no "engagement with the community" here. If "the community" asks about the games, they will learn nothing. There is nothing there.

The hillarious part is when next weak they will announce Total War Warhammer II and Life is Strange 2, games we already know they are working on, and they will reveal to everyone they were wasting our time...

People speculate which tittle it is, trade comments engage with the twitter an Facebook accounts of Feral. It's fun. You know, harmless fun. I enjoy it. It's a good trade for all the political nonsense I see all the time.

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Quoting: GuestThis is so stupid... Just reveal it already. Or don't talk about it at all until the games are released and we can buy them. What is the point of polluting our social media with vague stuff with no solid info?

I believe the answer is simple: it's not pollution and it generates engagement with the community.

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