Quoting: SuperuserBeen thinking of playing this, do I need to have played the first Wasteland to get into this?

No. It's essentially a remake of the original game, not a sequel.

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Quoting: sobkasSo will I have to buy it again or upgrade will be free?

It's a free upgrade for all current owners.

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About damn time. That's all I have to say.

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Quoting: NyamiouSteam users like you and me won't stop using it, but Microsoft can create a store like the Google Play store, you can install software not on the store but you have to go check a parameter somewhere to do that, then they can make it so that only software bought on the store appear on the menus, then they can mark the Steam client as a potential threat to the user, then they can use their power to force publisher to only publish new game on the Microsoft store (they would have to if they want to use the newer versions of DX), ... And this way most of Valve user database can be lost in a few years, less games would be published on it and it would die slowly.

I don't think that could actually happen. Valve isn't some start-up that Microsoft can casually grind under its heel, because Valve has the clout and resources to fight back and win. If Valve saw a maneuver like this coming, they'd quickly file an injunction against Microsoft and then sue them for monopolistic practices. And before you say, "But isn't Steam a monopoly?" no, it's not, because Valve has never used Steam to actively discourage competition.

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Quoting: mr-eggI have seen an actual 3d tv, it didn’t need glasses as it was parallax barrier, but it needed some work. As a monitor it probably would of worked a lot better. But surely as i stood there things flew out of the screen and there was real depth :)

Yes, that's how the Nintendo 3DS does it, and it's actually pretty awesome.

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Quoting: tuubiI'd say who cares, but I know a lot of you do. Personally I can't see myself investing into anything VR related until they come up with an implementation without the bulky headset. Hell, even 3D glasses are barely worth the annoyance.

Grumpy old man out.

I could care less about VR goggles myself, but it's frustrating to see one of Valve's partners releasing a product with the Steam brand that won't support Linux/SteamOS.

As for 3D technologies that don't require you to strap anything to your face, the Nintendo 3DS is an excellent example that works quite well. I'm sure that kind of technology could be scaled up to the size of computer monitors, but they'd probably be incredibly expensive.

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What the hell, man. First, Valve delays the Linux version of Dota 2: Reborn, and now this? It's like a slap in the face to us Linux users from the least expected direction. And I call bullshit on their "Steam machines are too weak to run a VR headset" excuse since they have to know that a lot of gamers are running Linux on how powered PCs.

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Quoting: amonobeaxNow that Unity3D, Unreal4, Source2, and Cryengine3 (to mention a few) have linux support, let's hope it will boost our platform.

There's really no excuse for developers not to support Linux any more, especially with the nearly 2-million Linux users currently on Steam.

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Quoting: Mountain Man

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Quoting: lucifertdarkLinux users have to play the waiting game again, this is how it's always been, heck we've waited years/decades for game support as good as Valve is supplying, a few more days wait isn't going to kill anyone.

That's not the problem. The problem is that even Valve is treating Linux users like second class citizens despite their efforts over the past few years to promote Linux as a viable gaming platform. If any developer were to have a day-one Linux release, you'd expect it to be Valve. A move like this sends mixed messages.

Valve is not treating Linux as second class, it's in fact treating Linux as first class and Windows as second class. If you want to use the "Steam Machine" brand you have to use the Linux based SteamOS. If you want to include a Steam Controller with your box it has to run SteamOS, or at least that's what the Alienware guy implied in this video:
http://www.maximumpc.com/e3-probing-alienwares-steam-machine-and-steam-controller-video/ [External Link]

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. I think you responded to the wrong article.

No, I didn't respond to the wrong article. You were saying Valve is treating Linux as second class so I mentioned some facts that indicate the opposite.

There's another article here talking about Alienware, which is why I thought you had responded to the wrong article, because your response comes across as a non-sequitur.

So Valve is controlling the "Steam Machine" brand. So what? I don't see how that equates to Valve treating Linux like a first class citizen, especially in light of the fact that Valve obviously didn't prioritize Linux/SteamOS support in Source 2 or give us day one access to an update to one of their most popular games, and the Steam for Linux client itself still lags behind the Windows version in some important areas (particularly broadcasting and in-home streaming).

Here's the rub: Valve is (presumably) out there promoting Linux/SteamOS support, trying to get other developers to jump on board, but then Valve doesn't give Linux/SteamOS priority support themselves. This is why I say it's sending mixed messages.

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Quoting: sarmad

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: lucifertdarkLinux users have to play the waiting game again, this is how it's always been, heck we've waited years/decades for game support as good as Valve is supplying, a few more days wait isn't going to kill anyone.

That's not the problem. The problem is that even Valve is treating Linux users like second class citizens despite their efforts over the past few years to promote Linux as a viable gaming platform. If any developer were to have a day-one Linux release, you'd expect it to be Valve. A move like this sends mixed messages.

Valve is not treating Linux as second class, it's in fact treating Linux as first class and Windows as second class. If you want to use the "Steam Machine" brand you have to use the Linux based SteamOS. If you want to include a Steam Controller with your box it has to run SteamOS, or at least that's what the Alienware guy implied in this video:
http://www.maximumpc.com/e3-probing-alienwares-steam-machine-and-steam-controller-video/ [External Link]

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. I think you responded to the wrong article.

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