Quoting: IzaicThat's how these changes generally seem to go. "Oh we broke wine? Oh well. But don't worry!" And then later after release: "Oops, time to worry! We justbwont be supporting Linux at all."

This doesn't sound like they accidentally broke Roblox on Wine, but, rather, they intentionally stopped it from working.

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Data management in video editing is an art in and of itself.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: Mountain Manbecause the majority of people simply don't want to play games that way

There's no evidence for this though, is there? I guess I'm doing the same - projecting my love of VR and optimism of how it changes gaming, as a counterpoint to your negativity on the same tech. I don't really have any evidence either, beyond the fact that the biggest game console maker in the world saw enough profit from VR the first time around to support a second iteration of that product.

It's still too expensive overall, but with Sony and Meta still pushing hard and Valve to a lesser degree, maybe it'll still take off one day.

Ultimately, these things are hard to predict. I remember walking around in the late 90's with my beloved Sony P90 and then latterly with my awesome sliding MDA and thinking that surely, this was it, this tech will change the world. But I had to wait nearly a decade before Apple launched the iPhone and it all clicked.

Will that happen with VR? Who knows. I doubt it has the same broad appeal. Maybe it'll be AR that breaks down the niche.

Edit: I still have that MDA! I lost its stylus, sadly, but otherwise probably still boots... if only I can find a mini-USB charger! He was such a chunky boi!

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The evidence is in the numbers. VR has been available to the masses at affordable prices for nearly a decade, but people simply aren't buying, and many who are buying are only dusting off there headsets every now and then to play the hot new "This changes everything!" game before putting it back on the shelf. I think the VR market is pretty well saturated at this point and Will grow very little in the coming years.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: Mountain Man"If people didn't care, then the companies wouldn't be hyping it" is backwards logic. They're hyping it because they want people to care. That's the whole point of advertising.

But they're hyping the second generation of their product. Clearly enough people did care or there wouldn't be a Sony VR 2, a Vive 2, an Occulus... whatever.

Using marketing hype to gauge the success and popularity of a product is silly. You need to look at other metrics, and according to gameplay stats, VR playtime lags far behind traditional gaming, and interest in games like Half-Life: Alyx drop off quickly shortly after release.

I think VR gaming is established enough at this point that it's here to stay, but it's always going to be a niche because the majority of people simply don't want to play games that way.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: Mountain ManIt's not the cost that's keeping people away but lack of interest. VR is running into the same brick wall as 3D television: people simply don't care.

Perhaps, but I suspect it's the cost. If it was a lack of care, I doubt Sony would be hyping their new VR kit, nor would Meta be hyping their shitty metaverse. Anyone who's tried (good) VR and didn't feel sick wants more of it, but the cost is still sky high.

"If people didn't care, then the companies wouldn't be hyping it" is backwards logic. They're hyping it because they want people to care. That's the whole point of advertising.

I don't think VR will outright fail, but I do think it will always remain a niche product simply due to a widespread lack of interest. The best example of this was at my local Microcenter: When the VR hype first began, they had a prominent demo setup in the center of the store and several shelves dedicated to VR gear. If you wanted to try the demo, you had to get in line. A few months later, the line was gone, and the shelves of VR products had been reduced to a single shelf. A few months after that, the demo area was removed, and VR equipment was relegated to a couple of small end cap displays.

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Quoting: TrainDocI'm begging y'all to not play the game like this. I understand the point of this mod but the game is entirely built around VR amd stripping such a core concite of the game out reduces what makes it so good. The total immersion in the environment and manipulation of items directly cannot just be removed without the game becoming a shell of it's former self.

Many people don't have the money for VR. That simple, man.

It's not the cost that's keeping people away but lack of interest. VR is running into the same brick wall as 3D television: people simply don't care.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: pete910This will make Nintendo ecstatic :wink:

The amusing thing is that actually it should.
Like, if they embraced the whole deal and stuck a bunch of their games on Steam with a big fanfare they might sell a lot of games with almost zero cost to them.
But we know they won't.

Nintendo's business model has always been "You buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games." You're never going to see Mario officially appear in a game on a non-Nintendo platform.

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Quoting: KlaasIf there really is a file with the content included in CS2, someone might have put it there as a joke.

If that was the case, I would have expected a Half-Life 3 reference.

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Quoting: JarmerAny other people running the beta D4 on linux? I'm on Manjaro, and running it through the listed methods in this article, and when it's running, it works great! BUT it's crashing a ton. So much so that I can't even complete longer dungeons really. It crashes the entire steam app. I have to open steam and restart, requeue, etc... Not sure if thats because of the methods listed here, or it's the GE proton version, or if it's the beta of the game itself.

I played through Steam using the Proton experimental branch and had zero problems with performance or stability.

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Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: Theodis

Quoting: Mountain ManYou're thinking of Diablo Immortal, which is your typical exploitive "free to play" mobile game ("Do you guys not have phones?"). Diablo IV is a proper PC game. They're going to offer cosmetic items, but there's not going to be any "pay to win" nonsense.

Once more extreme lines are crossed the previous lines don't seem so bad by comparison, but even cosmetic items used to not be tolerated in proper PC games, that was also for those free to play games. I have no doubt they'll keep pushing the line of what is acceptable and go further.

For Diablo IV I don't think so. I may be wrong, but I don't see them adding cosmetic items or similar things.
Don't forget that for Diablo III there was a shop where you could buy/sell in-game items with real money.
The players did get angry and they removed it.
We'll see what Diablo IV will be though...

The Diablo III auction house was for players to sell items to each other and not for Blizzard to sell items to players. Unofficial Diablo II auction houses were extremely popular but also a haven for scammers, so Blizzard thought an official auction house would protect players. I honestly don't know why people were so upset about it since it was entirely optional, but it was controversial nonetheless, so they took out.

Diablo IV, they have said that the item shop will be for cosmetic items only

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