Quoting: PatolaI don't understand all the fuss. When we buy a Windows game that plays through proton, we pay valve, we contribute to proton development and it even shows as a Linux sale to the developer, supposedly helping leverage linux gaming mindset. Why are people complaining? I thought we already established that we are an almost meaningless minority in the gaming universe, and proton seems the best way to increase our importance -- voting with our wallets, and at the same time making developers notice linux.

Having said that, X4: Foundations is still superior to No Man's Sky... (I know, I know, like comparing apples to oranges) Being that Liam is a space games fan, I wonder why I feel him not too enthusiastic when speaking about X4. Or am I the one who's overly enthusiastic? :P

Note: if Liam implemented a filtering system, I would definitely skip articles with "retro" or "pixel art"...

In my opinion voting for Linux with your wallet through proton is kinda like sending mixed messages. "I'm here give me games" but also "I'll take non-native games so don't bother porting."

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Quoting: wintermute

Quoting: ScooptaEven still the only game I play in Proton is Skyrim because my love for that game runs deep.

Skyrim was released four years after I started using Linux full time, so according to your rules I'm not allowed to play it and should be content with that?

I would be.

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Quoting: mao_dze_dunIf we let the purists have their way, Linux would have no GUI. Nobody is forcing you to play Windows games on Linux. I believe in the utilitarian approach - if it works then it's good. Liam should probably add some filter on the home page, so the "no tux, no bucks crowd" can only read about native games and then all will be happy. For too long the Linux community has been held back by having to cater to OS hardliners and their politics. The more Linux can do - the better.

That's what OS/2 thought until that went the way of the dodo. I don't think Linux will die like that but back in the day one of the reasons for OS/2's demise was devs built windows software with the mentality of "OS/2 can run it too so we're targeting both." I personally think wine is a double edged sword, always have, always will.

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Quoting: wintermute

Quoting: ScooptaI personally enjoy Proton for things like Skyrim which I've had since I was on Windows but I still try to stand by no tux no bucks as I think it's a bit of a slippery slope.

I personally enjoy playing games. I've been on Linux since 2007, I'm not going to only play Windows games released before then. Generally I buy Linux games I want to play on or around the day of release and Windows games I want to play when they're at least 50% off, so I guess my policy is "No Tux, Less Bux".

I've been on Linux for 4 years so not quite nearly as long but before Proton existed I only played native titles and was perfectly content with that. Even still the only game I play in Proton is Skyrim because my love for that game runs deep. Even playing anything at all in Proton was a huge deliema for me when it first came out but if I already own the game it doesn't really matter if I play it. Outside of proton I've never touched wine or a VM or any means of running Windows software.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: LinasI understand the importance of Steam Play and Proton, but is this really Linux gaming newsworthy? I personally don't think so, but I'd like to hear other options.

It is a game, running on Linux. Buying with Steam Play shows the developer a Linux sale.

You say you understand the importance...yet you made this comment?

At least for me personally I still have a hard time swallowing stuff like this. I personally enjoy Proton for things like Skyrim which I've had since I was on Windows but I still try to stand by no tux no bucks as I think it's a bit of a slippery slope. Yes it's a Linux sale but it's a Linux sale that the dev didn't put any special effort into and that IMO breeds laziness. Why port if they don't have to. Idk, no man's sky looks cool I just don't know if I can swallow buying a windows game.

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I hope the new studio makes Linux games. It'd be really disappointing if not.

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I'm always disappointed to see nvidia on top in the Linux world given their complete disregard for the Linux driver model. Maybe I just see that as a bigger problem than it really is given I've never owned an nvidia card but the fact that the driver is not in the mainline kernel and even worse is proprietary just rubs me the wrong way.

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Quoting: Desum

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: Desumthe binaries for Beamdog's Enhanced Editions are probably not going to be trivial to get running in a decade or so under GNU/Linux

Why would you think so?

How many times has glibc alone broken compatibility this past decade? Sure, it's still possible to get even the old Loki ports up and running, but it's not what most PC gamer's would call a trivial endeavor.

In fairness it's not just glibc. Windows breaks compatibility too over long stretches of time. The reality is it's pretty hard to maintain perfect backwards compatibility.

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Quoting: wvstolzing

Quoting: kuhpunktLinux is probably unpopular in China, because it can't be pirated.

*ba-dum-tss*

You can commit pretty nasty GPL violations, though.

Just look at proxmox. They ship ZFS. That's pretty nasty.

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Now that's a penguin that will strike fear into the hearts of windows gamers.

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