Good for them.

I know I'm swimming against the current here, but despite the fact that their interests don't really align with us, I always liked and respected Nvidia.
They always treated me right with their drivers, they worked on par with the Windows ones, they were reliable (sure, bug happens), and in about 20 years as a Linux user I knew I could always count on them to deliver the best performance.
Sure, there's more than looking for performance, I'm not living in a bubble oblivious to the existing Nvidia issues, and I've heard (or some experienced myself) them all, here, reddit, discord or whatever place where someone mentions Nvidia and shit start hitting the fan, so please, don't try to "open my eyes". And I'm not an "Nvidia or bust" person either, as you can see I'm rocking a AMD GPU right now, since it was the best card for the money at the time.
Maybe is a bit of nostalgia, since in my early Linux years I used only Nvidia cards, I dunno...I used to break my system all the time in all the imaginable ways, and there was a single constant piece if software that refused to break, guess which one :)

But anyway, I just think that Nvidia is an impressive front-runner company that excels at what they do. I hope they put this acquisition to good use, so yeah, good for them.

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Quoting: AwesamLinux@dubigrasu it works for me too without spoofing now, wonder if this is a conscious change they made :smile:

Funny thing, apparently you still need the spoofing on Windows. I haven't checked personally, but if so, is a interesting move.

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Looks like Nvidia removed the chromeos/chromebooks-only requirement. Nothing official, but I can use it now without any kind of spoofing.
Can anyone confirm?

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Interesting bit from Nvidia labs:



(from the video posted in op)

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Well, I'm saying they're maybe using DXVK because I see a DXVK cache in my Stadia data files.
This is from Metro 2033:
2033_auto_save
2033_l00_intro.player
2033_l01_hunter.player
2033_l02_exhibition.player
uEngine.dxvk-cache
user.cfg

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They might be indeed using DXVK for some titles.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyAnd who would need to fix it, and are there barriers in the way of their doing so, and whose fault is that?

Well, there isn't a single entity that is to blame or able to fix it, and is unlikely that the issues will be fixed anytime soon, (apart from unofficial forks). The bug report itself carries the label "Wontfix".

The basic motives are described (by a Chrome developer) like this:

“Our goal is to have a Stable and secure browser first, and a GPU-accelerated one second, when possible.

As we found out time and again, any sort of GPU acceleration has a lot of maintenance associated with it, between the multitude of configurations our users run, the general lack of quality of drivers (in particular on Linux), and the constant stream of incoming issue due to new hardware, driver, or distribution release.

“We don’t want to compromise the first goal (stable and secure browser), our choice is not to enable these acceleration features on Linux.

A good (and fairly recent) comprehensive story with all the relevant links can be found here:
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/10/hardware-acceleration-chrome-linux [External Link]

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Quoting: PatolaEven the recent GeForce Now capability we had, it was more like a loophole from Chrome OS - so much that they did not even recognized Linux PCs using chrome to allow it to be played, we had to fake the user agent. I mean, if they care for Linux, why not bunch together chromeos and linux? After all, it works the same in either!

The video hardware decoding support needed for a quality stream is still a mess on Linux. Yes, you can play even with software decoding provided you have a good CPU, but (as Stadia has shown) this can lead to a very wide range of results, starting from very good, to disastrous.
Even on Chromebooks, only several models have been tested and guaranteed to work, others "may work".

While Google threw their hands in the air and allowed Stadia to run even on non-adequate hardware (and like I said, with disastrous results) Nvidia most likely wants to assure that some standards of quality are still met. Standards that unfortunately right now can't be guaranteed on Linux. Nothing nefarious, no "anti-Linux" agenda here. Heck, the web client in question is unsupported even on Windows.

That being said, they're still working on extending their support to other platforms. If that means also Linux, it remains to be seen.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: mylkai really dont get it who would buy small games?

It's not about the size of the games or the type of games, I'm surprised people still don't understand it. Game streaming is about the convenience - having it available basically anywhere. Plus, for people who don't have a PC with any sort of power: it opens up many more game options both big and small. I personally absolutely still prefer my local copy on my desktop but I'm also glad streaming options exist.

"anywhere"..... stadia is not available anywhere and you need a very fast internet connection, so you kind of tied up to your own home... where all gamers already have a PC, or a console

Due to some unfortunate events, my PC is in a coma right now. I only have an older one that can't play anything for its life (ok, maybe tetris), but it can play Destiny 2 on Stadia just fine.

Will I get rid of my Steam account with thousands of games, or maybe just throw my good (but comatose) PC in the trash and go Stadia-only? Hell no. But sure as hell I'm glad options like Stadia do exist.

If Stadia doesn't say anything to you, then just ignore it. What's the point of people jumping in almost every Stadia topic just to say basically "I don't like it". Do something that you do like and forget about Stadia.

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Come on guys, is an extra option. Play locally, play on the cloud, play wherever you want.
Use Stadia or don't use Stadia, is up to you. Is not Stadia or else.

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