connecting both worlds has really become easy plus I think pure pipewire applications will get more prominent over time.
But as far as I understood the documentation, pipewire isn't as low-latency as pure jack, yet.Though that info might be outdated by now. Quite a lot happening there...

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The number one game I look forward to play on the SteamDeck in December. :)
Really wonder why it isn't released for mobile devices, just seems to fit so well.
Yes, the world is repetitive, but who cares. It's like a good Bond movie, a perfect mix of tension and relaxation.

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I bet a lot of marketing departments are currently brainstorming the perfect moment to hit that switch and make an announcement. Maybe shortly before SteamDeck release, maybe shortly after...

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Quoting: ridgeWould really love to try GNOME on some of my devices, but I hate the top bar and want a traditional panel on the bottom.. It's what keeps me using KDE on 100% of my computers.
No, I do not consider tweaking/hacking the shell an option :P

Installing a gnome shell extension like dash to panel neither?

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: const

Quoting: SchattenspiegelJupp, that video captures the spirit of the DE - it leaves me similarly confused and angry.

Is DE bashing considered a hobby by now? Really boring.
I really like gnome shell but usually prefer alternative applications to stuff like Nautilus(?Files?), Evolution, etc. I'm currently on KDE, but maybe I'll switch back to gnome, soon :)

Evolution still seems to be the best / most stable groupware program for Linux. Every time I use kmail I want to call it Outlook... And well Outlook I think is the biggest pile of shit to ever stink up my desktop.

This might very well be true, but I use thunderbird since ages and see no reason to switch. Yet I had to keep evolution as gnome depends on it for the clock... not sure if that's still the case.

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Quoting: scaineOddly enough, I've just installed KDE and given it a shot. I'm on it right now and there's a lot to love, but there's still a few things I do miss from my beloved Gnome 3.38. There's no expo when you press the Super key, just some ancient-looking menu that appears. I guess that's more familiar to Windows escapees, but it's jarring after a few years on Gnome-shell.

I also miss a lot of the gnome extensions I ended up relying on. It's early days though, so perhaps I'll find KDE equivalents for these in due course. I had a lovely CPU/Net history thing on my top panel - can't find a good one of those yet. I'll keep searching.

Finally, the panel font in KDE is pretty naff. I'm sure that theme-related, so I'll keep hunting.

All that to say, Gnome is really, really beautiful, and flexible in ways that I think KDE people have previously looked down on a little. But with a bit of work, you could put either in front of me and I'd be a happy penguin.

You can configure it, e.g. in System settings->Shortcuts->kwin->show windows of current desktop (My desktop is german, so names may be slightly different). I found it to be a little buggy sometimes and it seems you can't bind it to "meta" directly anymore, but maybe meta-ctrl or something similar would work for you? I can absolutely understand why you miss it. Same for me, amazing feature once you get used to it.

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Quoting: SchattenspiegelJupp, that video captures the spirit of the DE - it leaves me similarly confused and angry.

Is DE bashing considered a hobby by now? Really boring.
I really like gnome shell but usually prefer alternative applications to stuff like Nautilus(?Files?), Evolution, etc. I'm currently on KDE, but maybe I'll switch back to gnome, soon :)

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: FrawoWell, Valve already made a Linux console and CDPR did nothing.

They did something. They hired VP to do their TW2 port and they probably intended to let them continue with TW3. But since the Steam Machines went nowhere, so did their efforts.

Definitely interesting to know whether they would come back and do it for real if the Steam Deck takes off. Even a Vulkan engine in the game would be a big step.

The shitstorm for the initially really bad port was probably enough to make them stay away. TW3 was never announced by CDPR.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyBe hilarious if you end up using the gyros for fine cursor positioning.

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I might actually prefer that to holding the device with one hand for using the touchscreen, but I don't really think gyros will be necessary to use touchpads on a desktop. It's quite different from fps gaming.

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Quoting: GuestI have to point out that it is "powered by Arch Linux" in the sense that is only "Based" on it.
It is *not* running Arch, so any issue an user would have with the new Steamos will have no support at all by Arch Linux community,

It's running Arch as much as Manjaro is running Arch. The Arch wiki will be still extremely relevant. I don't expect Valve will deviate too far away from it's roots. Maybe it will have specific tested drivers and some bleeding edge kernel patches that benefit the Deck and haven't made into the mainline Kernel yet.

The big question for me is if SteamOS will even utilize pacman by default. In one of the videos, they showed of having OS updates in the Steam UI, as one package. That kind of shows the rumors from ?half a year ago? might be true and SteamOS updates will be snapshot diffs for a read-only fs. Advanced users will certainly be able to mount it rw and start using pacman, but who knows how much Valve will support that approach...
For normal users, this could be very comfortable and containerized apps will make the system open enough for most users...

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