The NVIDIA FP16 performance on their Tensor cores is quite impressive, I'll give them that. The Vega cards can only achieve 2x FP32 performance for FP16 which in itself is good but the tensor cores are like 4x or more of their FP32 performance.

People should be reminded that ray tracing compute heavily relies on FP16 performance.

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Well gaming consoles are allot slower, like ALLOT. Think of it like a mobile phone, yes you can get a nice 8core mobile for $150 off gearbest, but the ones with decent GPU's in them cost $400 and up!!!!

Anyway when XBOX2 and PS5 hit, things might change in that respect, but I believe the next gen consoles might also be $100 more then previous launch price due to the worlds failing economy....

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It's a ray traced approximation using the RTX compute power, FULL raytracing is probably 10 years away. It's a bit of a FLUFF piece of tech really which NVIDIA is using as basis to inflate the cost of these cards. In all honesty nobody was asking for this crap in their games.

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LOL you missed the point.

Its about stressing the GPU not if the benchmark performs at a playable FPS (most are over 60fps with 1440p and some at 4k btw).

Anyway I've mentioned the regression in results on my phoronix link, maybe someone will know whats going on..

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1920x1080 results are not overly reliably, the best way to do comparisons is 1440p and 4k because it actually stresses the GPU.

Anyway I think I know whats going on, compare the mad max benchmarks of the two links and you will see two things, first is that the Vega cards now have slower performance for some reason (regression) and second is the 1070ti has had its performance increased.

This could be CPU related, I dunno if the results were done on the similar hardware, the recent results were done at 5ghz so we should have seen the CPU eliminated from the results somewhat since it will not struggle at 5ghz.

Anyway I prefer to go by the lastest bench results, and they clearly indicate VEGA has some issues, maybe Phoronix has some configuration issues I dunno.....

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: TheRiddickVega is doing quite bad vs NVIDIA cards, around 20% slower in many cases, go read over at Phoronix about the Vega64.

Not sure what you were reading, Vega is beating Nvidia in many tests. That is Veta 56 vs GTX 1070 and Vega 64 vs GTX 1080. That is actually better than on Windows.

To match these new cards AMD will obviously need to produce something new as well.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-pascal-aug18&num=1 [External Link]

And your source mate?

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Quoting: Perkeleen_VittupääBoycott Nvidia now!

Yeah except there are no other real options, at least when you go past 1060GTX performance level!!!!!

When there is no alternatives then boycotts are VERY hard to do, your asking people to accept a more expensive and MUCH slower option (Vega)!!!!

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Still gotta slap the watercooling kit on my 1080ti mini card. I won't be able to afford a 2080TI until probably well into next year so that's ok. MAYBE AMD will figure something out by then if we're lucky? they just don't seem to be all that interesting in consumer GPU's anymore!

Anyway isn't the price increases also due to TRADE WARS related nonsense? like a %25 price increase on parts from China that is somehow going to cause prices to increase for the whole world because well the consumer regardless of where they are must pay for that BS like always right?!

Quoting: ElectricPrism<3 <3 <3 OPEN SOURCE DRIVER OR GTFO. <3 <3 <3

Vega is doing quite bad vs NVIDIA cards, around 20% slower in many cases, go read over at Phoronix about the Vega64. Open source drivers are cool and all but we are not seeing performance on par with how AMD runs under windows vs NVIDIA cards.

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From what I understand there is no combat in this game?

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It could work but developers would need to participate at least by saying they allow it for their titles, and are willing to pass on tech support questions to valve and whoever is helping valve.

Allowing DXVK for example to just work on everything is asking for trouble because you need to at least proof test things first on both AMD/NVIDIA GPU's so people don't constantly get issues.

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