LOL. No. Double Fine is not to be trusted. I'll buy once it's released.

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Quoting: melkemindI don't get why we shouldn't hold developers to high standards just because we're using Linux. That's a like a beautiful desperate woman settling for an old drunk guy who hits her because she's so afraid he'll leave. She deserves better, and so do we. ^_^

Bingo.

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Quoting: AnxiousInfusionAah, so it wasn't just my system being problematic afterall.

Ha! Same here. I'll give this another try soon.

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I waffled on getting a base model yesterday. A thought finally hit me this morning: I could have sold my current rig to make up spending $300 on a new rig. If Syber does this again in the coming weeks, I know what I'm getting. :D Upgrading the video card/power supply sounded cheap as well.

Also of note: optionally in all of Syber's packages they are basically giving away Portal 2, Rocket League, headphones, and a mouse pad as well. Same as with their current Windows packages although the games options are different. Yeah, if they can bring that price down to at least $399 I'm in.

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$100 off and an additional $100 mail-in rebate for all Syber Steam Machines today! I'm severely tempted at $299 to get the base model.

(only valid in US and Canada, by the way)

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Quoting: Comandante oardo[Honestly, I don't understand what VALVe is trying to do with all this..

This.

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Quoting: Beamboom

Quoting: adolsonI am not familiar with this YouTuber's body of work

"youtubers"... :-D

Don't get me started on that again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/3m3ar3/tb_discusses_the_indiepocalypse_and_why_he_covers/ [External Link]

Yeah, I don't give a crap about Youtubers. I make no apologies. I just think folks take themselves too seriously, all the while making a buck. And by "buck", I mean plenty.

Edit: Never mind, all of my comments were deleted. Sweet. I was beginning to think the Internet was still free but it's just sunshine/rainbows. Vive la Youtubers!
(Yes, trust no one.)

In summary from reddit, I believe all these Youtube reviews are non-sense and developers relying on these guys need to slow the flow down. If your game can't sell itself, you are doing it wrong. Hell, if you feel the need to rely on a YouTuber to prop up this game in such an over saturated market, you may need to find something else to do. If you aren't hitting your target audience, then that's that. Just my opinion, I'm sure many won't like them but there you go. I gave it anyway. I really don't see these accounting for much sales yet they are filling up their own wallets. Really, the math doesn't add up. It is probably a minuscule amount of sales based on a Youtube review. Therefore these Youtube reviewers are taking themselves far too seriously and developers are taking them far too seriously. I think Joe Blow viewer (who may or may not see the review) just takes it as entertainment or they probably were going to buy the game anyway. Factors one may not consider when one goes spouting "wow, but he as x+ Youtube views! He/she is awesome!"

The Internet is a big, huge waste of time. That's why we love it! I make no apologies, but I do apologize for the thread hijack, Liam. Kind of spun into a different direction based on one word. To get myself back on topic: I might check this game out once it is released as you, a guy who really doesn't make money off this site, has alerted me to the game's potential release.

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Quoting: burnallIf Valve doesn't interfere now, then everybody will move back to Win.

Valve's fragmented vision leads to fragmented business partners. One would expect for a little damage control 3 days ago. Oh, well, time for me to pop some popcorn and watch how this week unfolds.

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Good, I think the fact there are multiple vendors selling "Steam Machines" isn't a good thing because it makes the focus of what Valve is trying to do a bit more fragmented. If they are just 2 or 3 vendors churning out boxes with custom GPUs, this gambit may have a bit more of a focus.

With that said, I have no idea what Valve is trying to do any more. Build it and they will come? I don't know. I'm just glad I can play games on Linux I wouldn't have been able to 4 years ago.

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Quoting: Crazy PenguinSteam can't run a .jar file out of the box. As can see in the screenshots you only can add a filename BUT no parameters. So you have to wrap the full command line into a shell script.

(If I'm not misrepresenting what you are saying) Not necessarily, you just need to wrap your commands in quotation marks. I run a couple of .jars directly out of Steam, and you'll get the Steam overlay. I believe this is the video I originally saw that showed I could do so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcBeiYRJ198 [External Link]

Edit: Never mind, I ran into an issue today and now understand your point. Can't pass parameters to the .jar file the way I mentioned. If you don't need to pass parameters then it is acceptable.

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