I ended up downgrading back to the stable client to be honest. The beta is just too buggy, so far the most annoying things:

- Ctrl + F to find text in a page? You can't, the input box doesn't accept input
- Loading web pages first freezes, so you can't scroll. Go back to library and then go back to the page to be able to scroll
- Can't minimize chat windows easily without messing about with mouse in and out of window view until the button activates
- Purchases can't be completed because the 3D secure auth opens an external browser which excludes the session data
- My overlay is completely blank when opening it in cyberpunk, all I see is the chat box, everything else such as the options at the bottom, friends list, achievements etc simply aren't there at the moment for me.
- Various other little annoying bugs.

It's a shame, because I really liked the redesign, it's just far too buggy for daily usage.

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I'm glad to see this, though I expected it as it appears this time around the actually gave the survey to Linux users! I actually saw it and was able to submit mine, it makes a change because it's so rare for me to get it. It must have been a good couple of years since I last saw it. :dizzy:

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: WorMzyLooks good, but no file picker here either. Tried with both -runtime and -native. Nothing is printed to the terminal when I click the "Browse..." button, so I'm not even sure what it's trying to launch.

Do you have xdg-desktop-portal installed?

This works for browse files on the "pick a game to add" browser. But doesn't work for the one for chats or "upload your artwork". Both of those remain borked :-/.

I'll figure it out once I've had some sleep. :unsure:

One other thing I noticed, it's also broken 3DSecure for payments within the Steam client for me, since it tries to open my normal web browser for the authentication step instead of using the built in chromium framework, my browser of course doesn't have the session data and as such the process just fails :-/

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I just got this game for free[1] with my new desktop GPU so I will be giving this a spin on my deck soon!

[1] Well, not really free, I still had to pay an extra £10 to get the rest of the game ("DLC").

Edit: Though, I will say getting the key from AMD Rewards was easy, just provided proof of purchase and showed them a linux terminal with the GPU showing under lspci (in my case I showed "lspci | grep RX" to keep the output brief.)

They simply swapped the original redemption code, and gave me another which didn't require a product check. All from just one email to them, and one response from them. Done, simple as that. Can't complain!

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It also wasn't mentioned directly but the old Steam file picker when adding a Non-Steam game is gone, instead it now seems to use the desktop file picker. Finally!

Yay! /s

Now oddly my flatpak steam no longer sees the one desktop application entry I had created inside the flatpaks configuration directory for adding lutris / bottles games :-/.

Now I'll have to figure out why that is.

Also, now that there is no file-picker, at least with the flatpak version it is no longer possible to select attachments for steam chat.

Yay /s

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I have to admit, I do use this and it does it job really well!

It's particularly convenient to see which games are still using older versions of GE and such. :grin:

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Quoting: Marlock

Quoting: Klaas

Quoting: LanzWe really need to start holding the developers to account for low-effort ports. Too many people will buy it anyway.

But how? The Windows users will buy it anyway – most of them even if the game has an additional layer of inconvenience (AKA always online launcher) sprinkled on top.

If a huge percentage of Linux users does not buy the game due to broken promises, the developers/publisher ends up saying that it wouldn't have been worth it to spend more to satisfy such a small percentage of users.

Edit: What I should have included is that with broken promises I'm talking about the “it will run on the Steam Deck” tweet.

You maje an interesting point... i'm left wondering if "buy, try, refund if it doesn't run fine" is better for linux than "don't buy if others have issues"

but then again some devs will say they'll never do linux again because it's not worth the effort with so many open support tickets, etc

In truth, this is the real problem we have with Linux. If it wasn't for Valve, we'd be in a no-win situation if I'm honest.

If we complain a lot, we'll get "angry devs" and Windows users telling us "you should just use windows", and so people won't switch to Linux and developers won't support us.

If we don't complain, we'll be left with broken games, and Windows users telling us "you should just use windows", and so people won't switch to Linux and developers won't support us.

If we don't buy games, we're left with no games, and Windows users telling us "you should just use windows", and developers won't support us.

If it wasn't for Valve doing a ton of heavy lifting on our behalf, we wouldn't be where we are now.

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Quoting: Klaas

Quoting: BlackBloodRumPersonally, I feel what Lanz said is correct, (…)

Oh, absolutely. It's definitely correct, but what it needs is solidarity – otherwise there is not chance of things changing. And that's not what I'm seeing.

In this case there is a video by a gaming magazine that makes fun of PC users for a) not being able to run the game because they should have bought a PS5 instead and b) for never washing themselves.

Very often on Steam you see people making fun of other people that have technical difficulties. Common sighting are:
1) Install Windows. Only morons use Linux.
2) It runs on my system so everyone that has trouble is wrong.
3) I don't care if it works or not, I'm buying it to support the developer/publisher/to spite you/something else.

I've never bought a game that uses Denuvo and avoid buying games that require third party launcher (unfortunately some have been added afterwards). Does it change anything? Unfortunately not.

Indeed. There's only one way to truly make a business change their mind: Money.

But to do that needs a "united force" so to speak. That is, all gamers on the same page.

Sadly, getting all of any group on the same page can be near impossible.

As for common steam forum posts.. oh don't get me started! :dizzy:

To many people simply accept being treated like a certain brown substance, and some even wear it as a badge of honour. Until those people take a stand as well, nothing will change.

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Quoting: Klaas

Quoting: LanzWe really need to start holding the developers to account for low-effort ports. Too many people will buy it anyway.

But how? The Windows users will buy it anyway – most of them even if the game has an additional layer of inconvenience (AKA always online launcher) sprinkled on top.

If a huge percentage of Linux users does not buy the game due to broken promises, the developers/publisher ends up saying that it wouldn't have been worth it to spend more to satisfy such a small percentage of users.

Edit: What I should have included is that with broken promises I'm talking about the “it will run on the Steam Deck” tweet.

Personally, I feel what Lanz said is correct, that is that gamers (including windows gamers) should stop accepting such low quality ports and avoid buying games that are in such a poor condition as this was until it is either fixed or they simply stop releasing them in such a poor state. Bearing in mind, even Windows gamers are finding this extremely buggy and non-functional.

It's only like any other industry, could you imagine if you purchased a new car, and suddenly you found out it runs poorly because the batteries are underpowered for the motor, the windscreen wipers may cause the onboard speedometer to fail, and now you have to wait for system updates, which may or may not occur to fix these issues?

It would never be acceptable at all in that industry. So why should gamers accept it? At the end of the day, we are paying for a product and that product should meet certain standards.

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Three million units may not sound like a lot compared to console numbers. But personally I think that's a respectable number.

Bearing in mind this is a device that is based on Linux. Consider that many Windows gamers are straight up dead set against Linux. Now also consider that this isn't something that most PC gamers would initially think or see reason to buy, that is a good chunk of them are quite content with their desktop gaming setup.

Finally, it's only possible to buy via Steam itself, where realistically only those types of people live. Thus a lot of console gamers may never see it.

Even if we were to say that every Linux user who was already using Steam prior to the decks release were to buy the Deck, even then number of units sold is still larger than the previous Linux user base. Thus ruling out the idea that "well only Linux users bought it" and clearly a good chunk of previously non-Linux gamers purchased it.

So all these things put together.. that's a pretty damn respectable number of units sold!

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