Happy to see this update landed within a timely manner.

In the previous blog post there were a few users throwing insults at the Aspyr devs. Happy to see the update was released fairly promptly for those users.

While I did try to say not to personally insult the devs, I couldn't argue so well with them when I argued* with their view points regarding equality and customer treatment and regardless of platform, but sadly my argument was merely about them being a third party dev and not to personally insult the devs (they are human too). I'm happy that Aspyr was able to produce the update this fast 👍

* It's difficult to argue with someonex when you agree with what they are saying.

PS: I've bsen drinking too much rum tonight (I am a pirate) and studying / speaking my second language all night and it's noe almost 6am 😂 so my English is perhaps not at it's best right now. 😅

Sorry!

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Quoting: areamanplaysgame

Quoting: BlackBloodRumWoah guys, stop with all the hate. Seriously.

I dislike how the Linux community is slowly turning into a bunch of people whining... step back, take a deep breath and calm down.

Now, it's not great that this wasn't immediately ported, and let's face it many of you want to play the new update, want simultaneous updates with Windows and of course, to play online with windows friends.

It's perfectly acceptable to want these things, but here's the thing you have to remember:
Porting houses usually don't get access to the update code until after the windows team has finished their part, by this time usually the update is announced and has a deadline.

Sadly this often means if they run into problems making it work, or anything else which may slow it down, the deadline is easily missed, and the Windows version will always be ready first. That's why it's called a port..

So sit back, wait a little while and calm down.

Complaining and insulting the developers won't make the port happen any faster, in fact it may do the opposite, if you're a developer reading someone talking about you, and you read "These guys can eat shit" and "I'm definitely not buying this now!" will this make you want to keep porting for them?

Nope it'll make you angry and have a low opinion of the people you're doing the work for.

Remember, some of the porting houses have developers who read these comments...

The other platforms Aspyr is charged with porting this to, including Nintendo Switch, already received the update. Nintendo Switch doesn't have cross-platform multiplayer with Windows. Linux and Mac do, and they are now broken with no indication of when they will be fixed. In short, the game I've paid for is currently useless for the reason I bought it, and will be for the foreseeable future. Like I said, I don't even care about the new content. My goal was to continue playing the game that was working until they broke it. I don't care if they "want to keep porting for me" at this point, because they clearly don't value my business enough not to deliberately break the product I paid them for.

Edit: You're right, I shouldn't say they can "eat shit," and I apologize to anyone who was offended by that, including anyone from Aspyr who may be hanging out here. But the rest of what I said still stands. We are consumers just like everyone else, and we are not obligated to be grateful for whatever scraps we get because we're on a platform with lower market share. You know why? Because we are paying just as much as Windows users are paying. We are not being given a gift.

I understand your frustration here, and in some aspects you're absolutely correct, you've bought the game just like any other platform user.

But I believe your anger is misguided. They didn't break your game here, so far as I'm aware they didn't release an update, and that in turn has caused multiplayer to cease working between different game versions.

Now let's step back for a moment and see what's actually happened here.

2K are the primary developers of this game, they are the ones who've created the base game, DLC, and any required version/dlc checks for online play.

It seems to be 2K have released the Windows update (of which, Aspyr have no control over or say in) which has in turn caused multiplayer incompatibilities. No doubt, they were fully aware Aspyr were not ready. But they had announced a date, and had a deadline - and PR, managers etc etc said "Release it for Windows anyway, Linux and Mac users can wait".

It's true Aspyr didn't have the update ready in time, but they didn't do this on purpose, there could well be serious bugs that have caused them to not have the update ready in time, and naturally as I previously mentioned porters get the updates effectively last minute in development terms.

For all we know, 2K could have done a last minute bugfix update to the Windows version a few days prior to release, then sent it over to Aspyr who weren't able to ensure that bugfix works on Linux and Mac too, or it broke something on those platforms.

There are so many factors which can slow it down, it's really not funny. Sadly, Aspyr are not the primary developers, as such they have absolutely no say when a Windows update/DLC is dropped which can break compatibilities with other platforms.

Sad but true.

Unless we were find out exactly how and why this delay occurred, we can't really say it is fair to direct anger at them at this time.

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Woah guys, stop with all the hate. Seriously.

I dislike how the Linux community is slowly turning into a bunch of people whining... step back, take a deep breath and calm down.

Now, it's not great that this wasn't immediately ported, and let's face it many of you want to play the new update, want simultaneous updates with Windows and of course, to play online with windows friends.

It's perfectly acceptable to want these things, but here's the thing you have to remember:
Porting houses usually don't get access to the update code until after the windows team has finished their part, by this time usually the update is announced and has a deadline.

Sadly this often means if they run into problems making it work, or anything else which may slow it down, the deadline is easily missed, and the Windows version will always be ready first. That's why it's called a port..

So sit back, wait a little while and calm down.

Complaining and insulting the developers won't make the port happen any faster, in fact it may do the opposite, if you're a developer reading someone talking about you, and you read "These guys can eat shit" and "I'm definitely not buying this now!" will this make you want to keep porting for them?

Nope it'll make you angry and have a low opinion of the people you're doing the work for.

Remember, some of the porting houses have developers who read these comments...

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I guess I'm one of the few who likes the keyring features. :woot:

But with that said, I don't use gnome / kde's built in keyring which is terrible, I use KeePassXC as my keyring now. (A sub category used within). So if I've unlocked KeePassXC, I've unlocked my keyring. I can also lock it again automatically (timeout)

Gnome Evolution would be super annoying without using my keyring (many many password prompts).

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I need to try this game!

I used to love AoE, I'll be showing my age a bit here, demo, daijyoubu lol

I remember it distinctly most for it's online side, Internet Gaming Zone (Anyone remember?).

Although, back then the most popular strategy, myself included was to build as many archary camps in one big long row, fields and town centres as you could before the other guy.

Then just outright outright spam your enemy with horse archers and other military as fast as you could while generating hundreds of archers in a row while your others die and kill then just keep going... oh good times!😂

Perhaps I should play it a little differently these days. 😂

Spoiler, click me

Back in the day, you could play online with the demo version of the game, or if you're smart, a pirated version, which their gaming zone happily allowed without any checks or problems

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This is great news! I think working with more distributions is a much better idea.

I understand they have SteamOS which is based on Debian or uBuntu, but honestly I don't know anyone who uses SteamOS rather than a regular distribution for their games these days. Most, if not all Linux users would rather use his/hers/it's favourite distribution.

I feel broader Linux support is the best choice.

Just my opinion of course.

Now they just need to fix the bug which prevents my monitor going to sleep (idle) if steam app is open! :lol:

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The good news is, Linux is not-alike Windows, in that we're not all tied to one specific distro.

Non-Linux users will often comment "Linux is too fragmented" with too many distributions to become mainstream. That, Linux having so many distros is a bad thing.

Well, to be honest. Steam and Canonical have just highlighted one of the reasons that we do have so many distros. It gives us the ability to quickly move on to a new distro when we're not happy with what's going on with our current.

Though, to be fair, I do not use uBuntu (never did). So I'm not overly bothered by their decision. But I can certainly understand how it will affect many people.

Go Fedora, Go Arch, Go Debian, Go Slackware, go wherever you feel comfortable next. Linux is great like that, you're never tied down.

A moment I am proud to have supported only Linux since 2003. As this demonstrates our ability to keep moving. A happy Fedora, Arch, CentOS user* here. :).

* I usually pick my distro based on the usage needed for a particular system.

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Goes to show though, even if Steam says we're at 0.001% of users we can still count for a larger number of sales than our expected userbase.

So yes, we're only 0.001% but we can still add that 1.1% (more or less depending on game) to a games sales. That's still extra money for the developers whichever way you spin it.

What would be interesting is to see statistics on a big game ported by Aspyr like DiRT Rally (epic game) and where we would stand on a game like that.

The numbers must be OK because codemasters have let them port a few games now.

Aspyr, care to help? :-D

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Awesome!

I've really gotta upgrade my computer so it can play all these new games! (still running a GTX 650)

PS: Liam, is that countdown timer just in there so you can show off that your articles can have timers?:D

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Geek news site? :huh:

Do we Linux users really want to be associated with geeks? :P

It'd turn into "Linux is an OS for geeks" which is more food for the Windows trolls. :D

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