Quoting: tmtvl

Quoting: MGOidI don't think Firefox make it unpure, the theme and wallpaper are still untouched :-)

But, what choice did they have? Both Konqueror and Rekonq went MIA a long time ago, and there is no other QT browser well maintained and integrated with KDE, so the best is to stick with Firefox or Chromium.

The Gnome folks have Epiphany, but I wonder how many stick with it instead of Chrome or Firefox.

KaOS uses QupZilla. In fact, KaOS has its repositories set up to contain as few GTK applications as possible. If I wanted a pure KDE distro, that's where I'd go.
Not that there's anything wrong with Kubuntu per se (besides being based on Ubuntu, of course).

Quoting: EhvisIt's still better to have *a* golden standard than no at all. At least game devs have a fixed system to test against. Otherwise they may have been scared off by the excessive amount of choice.

Yeah but... Fedora. If you want any distro to be standard, go with Fedora, it's backed by a big player (Red Hat, the original big fish in Linux), often set the standards followed by other distros (Pulseaudio, SystemD, Wayland,...), and, most important of all, actually has up-to-date packages. Arch would also be neat, but it's not always super stable and it hasn't got a big player backing it.

Note: I don't run Fedora because I vastly prefer KDE over anything GTK based.

You can always use a Fedora spin, Fedora KDE [External Link]

I use the Fedora MATE spin, as I am not at all fond of Gnome3/Unity

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Looking at the steamdb entries I don't see any indications the Linux version has started development. We may be in for a long wait. Also makes me worry they may not have paid attention to cross platform support in their development tools.

Hopefully it all works out. Just don't buy it until Linux release, no matter how good a sale comes along.

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I've got an issue with the brightness. Also it fails to validate some files but then is unable to redownload them. I deleted the game and redownloaded, same thing.

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Computer programmers should be smart enough to check that their tools are supported on their target platforms. This is nothing but laziness/stupidity. Unfortunately we see much too much of it.

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Quoting: cxphergmailcomActually, it's more than doubled. We're sitting at 2.21% atm for Linux usage. I follow the stats on other sites. Steam stats are not accurate.

Steam stats match Steam game sales quite nice often.

Neither one of which are very accurate. Many people playing games on Linux bought those games on Windows and they are counted as Windows sales. Also many people buy games and play them in Wine, which are also counted as Windows sales. Neither one of these in any way show up in steam numbers related to Linux. It may not be a massive difference but a small reduction in Windows usage added to a small addition in Linux isn't so small. We don't know how much of a difference it makes so you can't really make a conclusion either way.

Also I have bought games through steam, just to get the data files so that I could play the games in Linux. IE, the recently community ported Jedi games, need for speed II, Doom I II and III, all the Quake's, Morrowind and a few more I believe (a few of these were purchased outside of Steam but would have been bought through Steam if they had Linux support). All of those sales were counted as Windows sales, but they aren't actually Windows sales. The original developers/publishers should really start trying to make deals with community ports to offer the games for Linux through Steam. It requires no work and is basically just free money. They can even make them unsupported ports like Arma III is now and they don't even have to support them, but they would count as Linux sales and people could play them without manual setup in SteamOS.

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: RedfaceWhat is missing is a way for developers to add DRM free as feature so it is listed together with Single-Player, Multi-Player etc.

Isn't that as simple as not linking to the steam api library? That'll mean no steam goodies like achievements though, so I doubt there'd be much support for it.

What would be really good would be the ability to launch a game with or without the steam api at launch or in a launcher

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Don't know what to make of it but Topware shows Call of Tenebrae available 10/21/2016

https://www.topwareshop.com/index.php?id_product=247&controller=product&id_lang=3 [External Link]

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I agree with you, DRM is not a problem, it's their game and they have the right to make it DRM, Windows are Microsoft's OS and they have the right to DRM it and control our computers and spy on us if we accept their EULA so it's on us to say NO to those kinds of practices... If people don't get away from them they will just keep getting worse, however legally they have the right to do it if you accept their EULA... So if I would want to use Windows I would be forced to accept their EULA and DRM and same is with games... you don't need to buy games but if you want to buy and play a game that belongs to the company you need to accept their EULA and DRM so I don't see a problem here... it's better to have DRM only on the game that you play rather than the OS that u use and also games that you play on :)

I don't like DRM. If a game asks me for root escalation so it can install some DRM service, instant refund request. Luckily I haven't seen this on Linux yet. I think Steam DRM is fairly benign as far as DRM goes. I would like games to be released on GOG also, that way you can get a copy that will work even if steam ever goes under you don't loose games. But I think it's a lot to expect of developers/publishers right now. I would really like to see steam add the option of developers including games in Steam DRM free, that way GOG wouldn't be needed. I don't think GOG really cares about Linux and they haven't really done much to advance Linux gaming. We don't even have their client available on our platform.

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Quoting: Comandante oardo

Quoting: m2mg2Kinda silly to argue against DRM, then install Windows instead of Linux........

No at all...
I already have a Linux machine..
I am assembling another PC with Windows 7 64 bit OEM(no dual boot)....

I am against the DRM on Linux, because to request permision for to play a game you own is contrary to the FREEDOM of the Linux platform...

With Windows is different; DRM is the rule there. I don't like it, but I tolerate it If I have gaming benefits like, for example, the posibility to play 100% of my Steam library (the Remastered versions of Bioshock 1 and 2 are my next games to play)... .. My Uplay library.. my DRMFREE Windows games like GOG, Humble and Gamersgate.

..and my EA Origin Library empowered with EA access, "THE VAULT" feature that allow me to play big games like Battlefield™ Hardline, Dragon Age™: Inquisition Digital Deluxe, Titanfall™ Deluxe, Battlefield 4™ Premium Edition, etc, for just 5U$D per month... (not only that, suscribers have an extra 10% discount on the store)...
If the thing goes like this, EA will kill Valve in a few years, but not now...Not even close....

This DRM thing for me is cost vs benefit... There is no benefit with DRM on Linux...Specially if the DRM'ed games are games already available on Windows for several months or years...

I can tolerate the Steam DRM on Linux if Feral (or Aspyr or Virtual Programming) gives me AAA Linux games that aren't available on Windows. :)

Steam is the dominant platform for game distribution. To expect a developer to put the effort to port and not release on steam is just silly. You can ask for a GOG version, but that is extra work that would cut in to the benefit of making the port. You are entitled to you point of view but I think it is really silly, and I think a lot of people will agree. DRM is not just on Windows, Windows is DRM. Microsoft has total control of your computer once you connect to the internet and there is nothing you can do about. I am also against DRM, but the world doesn't change overnight. Your DRMFREE Windows games aren't really DRM Free as you are playing them on Windows and Microsoft could delete them from your hard drive any time they want. If you want to have Windows and access your full game library that's cool. But you shouldn't bash on people that are helping us access games on a platform that is open and ours to do what we want with.

It would be much more productive to make a post and say, "You know I would really love a DRMFree version on GOG and I won't buy it for Steam, but thanks anyway".

I stand by my statement that is silly to argue against DRM to the extreme of saying you won't use Steam on Linux and then install Windows to use Steam on Windows. I don't think any of us want to see pictures of your motherboard with a Windows 7(I mean 10 with different theme) disc. This is gamingonlinux.com and your bashing Linux porters on multiple threads and basically promoting the use Windows for gaming. Not cool

Thanks Feral, I'll be buying this on release

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Quoting: Comandante oardo

Quoting: Beamboom@edddeduckferal

Thank you so much that you take your time to explain how things work "behind the scenes" in regards to the publishing rights etc. These are questions I've always wondered about.

Thanks again!

Quoting: Comandante Ñoñardoyour ports are Steam infected

Come on, dude. Come on. Just... Take a chill pill. This is fanatic.

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Gaming problems painfully solved...

Kinda silly to argue against DRM, then install Windows instead of Linux........

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