Quoting: tmtvlHoly crap the new wishlist on steam is hideous.

Kinda makes me not want to buy anything.

There is no accounting for taste but I thought it looks alright. At least clear to read and informative. I'm always curious about users' grievances with particular UI decisions though.

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Sounds pretty cool. I'd be interested in playing it.

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Quoting: appetrosyanI understand what you mean by overpreparing, but in out particular case this isn't really a risk. Right now, Linux in the minds of the 75% of the Desktop market share is this obscure, hacker only OS, with little to accommodate anything beyond software development. Not advertising just leads to status quo, nothing lost nothing gained.

On the other hand, advertising it right now would be difficult: the average consumer would want to be able to do what they can do on pretty much any other device and right now all of those things are getting a facelift (getting, not got). Advertising now is like inviting people to a recital when you've just started playing an instrument.

We are just transitioning to Wayland: it's not feature complete, only one mainstream DE has workable support, almost no applications work under it and to top it all off, nVidia refuses to support it. And wayland would be huge for gaming. Making mainstream audiences switch now would create a bunch of myths about Linux that we can't easily shake off. It makes sense for Valve to wait until some of the dust has settled, and lay the groundwork in other areas.

I see your point and I appreciate the fact that there are times when you have to patiently prepare but at the same time I don't agree with the current state being quite so hopelessly unappealing and rough. You actually can do everything you can on other platforms and have a pretty good time doing it. But oh well. I do wonder at which point would you start advertising it heavily? Like what marks that moment when the dust settles in your opinion? Flawless adoption of Wayland in mainstream distros like Ubuntu?

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Reverse X-COM? Voice acting by ProZD? Yes, yes, yes! Super interested, will most probably buy.

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Quoting: burningserenitySo with Win32 eventually phased out, will WINE be the easiest way to run legacy Windows programs?

It's already becoming that. I keep hearing reports of games not running well on latest versions of Windows which I have no trouble running in Wine at all.

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Quoting: GrazenHere is a link discussing WCOS:

https://www.windowscentral.com/understanding-windows-core-os-and-polaris [External Link]

Note that WCOS is not Windows S.

That is hilarious. They're literally selling... Linux. The Linux paradigm. All the best Linux features. (Closed platform bits aside) Brilliant.

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Quoting: GrazenUnderstood, my point is just that the next version of Windows - now called Windows Core OS (not related to the Core OS that Red Hat just bought) - will be a massive upgrade similar to the upgrade to Windows NT 20 years ago. This will be a bigger threat than Windows 10 S - and Liam's article as a result is already dated. The threat however, is even bigger than the hyperbole in his article.

Could you elaborate on why you see this threat as so severe?

Quoting: appetrosyanWayland is not complete, we still need to do plenty of under-the-hood improvements, before the aggressive marketing will even have a chance. Right now, we'd only make the task even harder.

On one hand I certainly understand the risks you're talking about. I mean, look at Steam Machines. On the other hand, there is the risk of overpreparing and betting too much on one big reveal that is supposed to be perfect and coming way too late or not coming at all. I mean, look at Steam Machines, I bet Valve learned a lot of really useful things from their first attempt that would help them tremendously if they eventually follow up. The whole "release early" philosophy exists for goods reasons. But yeah, Wayland is even conceptually incomplete if you ask me (I consider the "you can't have a DE-agnostic screenshot / screen recording tool because security" approach a serious mistake). So I'd say it's a delicate question and I wouldn't insist on any one answer to it at the moment.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleIf you told people that in order to continue running Windows they have to allow a Microsoft goon to bash their finger in with a hammer once a month, I suspect most people would still continue to run Windows. Except now they'd be typing slower with their bashed in finger.

While I agree completely with this degree of Stockholm syndrome being prevalent, I do think that if anything is going to dethrone Windows and shake people up it's Windows stopping being an open platform. Not everyone cares for sure, but I reckon a lot of people do, people who do any development, any serious gaming, just about anything past most casual usage. So I consider them pushing this lockdown not a potential disaster but a very very fortunate possibility. Nothing will show the naked emperor that is Windows for what it is like losing its vast library of "legacy" software and games. I really wish they do this.

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Quoting: heidi.wenger

Project Contingency was created under Microsoft's "Game Content Usage Rules" using assets from Halo. It's not endorsed by Microsoft and does not reflect the views or opinions of Microsoft or anyone officially involved in producing or managing Halo.

Yes, yes..

Well well well, apparently it does reflect after all. :D

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I don't love abundance of perfectly flat surfaces in my game graphics, but the actually good pixel art and lighting do wonders here.

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