Glad to see Wine news, especially concerning Shader Model 5 progress so often.
Glad to see the list of games relevant to the Wine update.
And hella glad to hear that The Witcher 3 is already running in a functional manner in Wine. Didn't expect that to happen so soon to be honest. Very very excited about that.

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Honestly, I don't think such text-heavy games as Torment: Tides of Numenera lend themselves well to let's plays. You either have to read aloud a LOT or awkwardly keep guessing the optimal time to advance the text the entire time.

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Quoting: Mountain ManThe real question we should be asking is the one we can't answer: Is Valve happy with the current success of Linux/SteamOS/Steam Machines? Because that's what really matters. Is everything going according to plan, and just how far is Valve willing to push this experiment? I have no idea. I hope they're in it for the long-haul, because I'd hate to see commercial gaming on Linux abandoned and have to return to Windows (shudder) or turn to console gaming exclusively.

As far as I can see, everything Valve did was for the long haul and it's been working out for them just great. Would be strange of them to stop now, what with all that positive experience reaffirming their approach and everything. (Not to mention the neverending shitton of money they're getting regardless of the success state of SteamOS/Machines.)

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Quoting: commodore256

Quoting: qptain NemoWine increases the viability and appeal of moving to Linux and decreases those for staying on Windows.

What happens in the times that Windows becomes more of a black box and the windows compatibility is out of date?

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Windows having the ability to run new windows apps and new OS/2 Apps, (if any) but OS/2 was only compatible with legacy Windows ruined the viability of OS/2 just like the ability to only run legacy Windows on Linux is ruining the viability of Linux.

Well, thankfully the appeal of Linux doesn't entirely rely on Windows applications legacy or not! Not nearly. In fact Linux for me is all about being able to do more, not less. I can't attest to what the situation with OS/2 was, not familiar enough with it, but going by your description this is a very different situation.

Because you see, it's still very different to need some Windows applications and to need Windows. The latter is definitely not the case for me, thankfully, and the former is mostly covered by Wine. I don't think my situation is unique at all.

Lastly, I believe it very much matters what exactly is available and what isn't. The overwhelming majority doesn't actually care about having 100% of options. (This is one of the reasons I'm so upset with CDPR, I think The Witcher 3 alone if it came to SteamOS and Linux would make a huge difference in people's perception of the platform. Being able to say "but we have The Witcher 3" could possibly sway quite a few conversations and people. )

Wine or not, Linux is certainly not just a launcher for legacy Windows programs and that's not going to change.

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Quoting: qptain NemoMore closely to the topic of the article, I wish someone would provide "specific games that work now" / "games that work better now" lists along with those updates. I know compiling those is actual work that somebody would have to do but it'd be very very neat to have them.

Was that aimed at me or the Wine guys?

Either or anyone, really! I don't think it matters much who does it. I just know I sure would love to see that info on GOL along with the updates. I would find it informative and encouraging.

mrdeathjr, thanks for immediately delivering! :D

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With all due respect, saying "wine discourages ports" while true, is a very one-sided and short-sighted argument. The positive effects far outweigh the negative ones. Several people here have already pointed many of them out, so I'll just focus on this: Wine increases the viability and appeal of moving to Linux and decreases those for staying on Windows. Don't forget that, while it's true that the existence of Wine "removes the need" of porting to Linux it also works in the opposite direction, the less options are exclusive to Windows, the less reasons for using it there are. I imagine the moment Wine catches up with DirectX 12 or even just 11 it'll have noticeable ramifications. What more needs to be said? If it wasn't for Wine I'd never be able to switch to using Linux exclusively, as a gaming enthusiast, composer or developer. Furthermore, every reasonable developer with an ounce of respect for the players understands full well that native ports are vastly preferable. One could go on and on on this subject, but really Wine and its progress are amazing and extremely beneficial to our platform.

More closely to the topic of the article, I wish someone would provide "specific games that work now" / "games that work better now" lists along with those updates. I know compiling those is actual work that somebody would have to do but it'd be very very neat to have them.

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I suggest introducing a "developed on Linux" tag.

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Quoting: buenaventuraAlso, check out the x-piratez [External Link], it's awesome.

Thank you for sharing this, it sounds fantastic!

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I'm very hyped about this because Eric the Unready is one of the funniest games I've ever played. And Timequest was very interesting. Bates is definitely one of the designers I trust and respect.

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No excuse not to own the original X-COM now guys!

I wonder if collectively requesting 2K to spend 3 minutes to add a linux DOSBox setup to Steam is viable though...

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