i see no change in VR since the new proton. Games that ran before are still running, games that didn't start before now don't start either. Would be interesting, if someone has other experiences.

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With the Beta all tested VR-Games (Budget Cuts, King Graffiti, Holopoint, Gorn, Onward, TheLab, Rick&MOrty) dont even start anymore. :(

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i really like the new steamplay , but my favorite games dont work, because of the old wine they're using, i asume. hope they will upgrade soon

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Quoting: ElectricPrism

Quoting: TheRiddickMost steam machines where upgradable in every respect except for the Motherboard. It would be nice if they went with a ITX standard however!

It's pretty simple --

$260 -- Dan a4 SFX

$120 - Corsair SFX PSU 600 Watt -- SF600

~$130 - Mini ITX Motherboard

~ $200 - CPU

~ $100 - RAM

~$250 - GPU

~$100 - M.2 SSD or 2.5" SSD

~$50 Noctura CPU Fan

So basically you could do a upgradable small form factor Steam Machine for $1210 not including controller, monitor/tv, keyboard, mouse.

And if you have a GPU, CPU / Ram you can knock off $550.

And if you wanna knock off another $100 you could try for a Dr Zaber Sentry instead of a Dan a4 SFX if you prefer the flat console like look like Xbox

Use an existing SSD? -$100

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i built my own steam machine 2 years ago. with help of a friend who has all the machinery in his basement. i constructed an own case for itx. but if you want it really small to fit in your shelf in your living room, this isn't that easy. and to find a suitable little case with dvd-drive isn't neither.
i still have little problems with overheating when playing games like "dying light".

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huh. i wished they would also cover VR. would love a fancy diving-game in vr

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I love DRM free games!
Great. i will have a long look at this

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Fuck. Some weeks ago Humblebundle had this in a sale with a linux icon beneath (too early as i recognized back than after bought) . I bought it. Good for me but i asume bad for feral.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEPQuite honestly, I still see VR as little more than a gimmick.

I can see absolutely no breakthrough for a tech that requires you to have a rather clunky and heavy ...

i just bought a vive at christmas on second hand market (450€ it was for 1 year warranty left) and i dont think its heavy at all. i barely feel it when fighting in VR. just the cables are a mess, but this will be solved in the future.

QuoteAnd don't even get me started on most of the games made specifically for VR. Horrible stuff. Remove the VR aspect from them and what you're left with is games that wouldn't even sell on mobile because of simplicity and bad design.

maybe we have to overthink how games have to be made for VR. Its not done with the same mechanics we are used to. for example i played GORN for hours now and maybe the design is simple but it is a lot of fun, because you hack and slay with your own hands and arms. you would never think, that this game is such fun on old fashioned monitors. But ducking and strafing in real , blocking and hacking too brought me fun for hours (and its a very good exercise too :D )

i didn't tried fallout 4 yet, so i cant compare how fascinating it is in a "real" AAA-Game. Yet i am struggeling to make the Vive work on linux, just to see that there are no games to play in vr right now (everspace works i heared, will test this)

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i see, i left it at the right time for day of infamy... i hope they dont destroy this too

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Quoting: GuestI was super excited for this but after how New World Interactive "ended" the first Insurgency I won't buy their products anymore. That whole we're discontinuing support and forcing 3rd party spyware on you while breaking the game UI and adding a ton of other problems before we "leave" fiasco.

Lack of campaign is just another big nail in the coffin that says they can't hold things together, deliver what they promise and that they have serious direction issues.

i still play insurgency from time to time, and i mentioned nothing like you wrote above.
what do you mean? What did i miss?

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