Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: EhvisI'm going to buy some bread at the supermarket. When I finished it, I can't use it anymore. It's not DRM free!

What, the store enforcers run after you and grab your bought bread away on a whim? Or the bread has a self destruct trigger attached that can be activated by the store? What kind of bread do you buy??

Hint: be careful with analogies from physical merchandise to digital goods. They are not always matching one to one. But if you are using one, at least find something close enough.

You completely missed the point. Yes, it doesn't work for physical merchandise. It could work for renting if the data that is sent to you is mangled in such a way that it is useless to you. Which is actually fair in renting since you don't pay to own it. However, if this last one doesn't apply here since nothing is mangled in any way because nothing that is transmitted needs to be protected. So all that's left is arguing that you don't like renting game time. Which is fair enough, but don't call it DRM. That only pollutes the arguments again actual problematic DRM.

I'll end this with my opinion with technical reasons. I don't think this service will provide the best experience. Since lag is a problem with any on-line game, it will also be problem here. I have no interest in paying for a service that delivers a subpar experience.

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Quoting: ShmerlSo it doesn't fit the definition of being DRM-free

I'm going to buy some bread at the supermarket. When I finished it, I can't use it anymore. It's not DRM free!

Yes, I know, it's completely irrelevant, just like your argument.

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Quoting: ShmerlThere is nothing to buy, so it doesn't fit the definition of being DRM-free, ergo it's a DRMed digital store. Not sure what's hard to understand here.

There is no store. You're paying for time on service that allows you to use something that you can't use in any other place. Everything you said so far is irrelevant.

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Quoting: ShmerlThe definition of DRM-free is "buy and don't have any restrictions placed on the purchase after you bought it".

I know you're a DRM free advocate, but that's just nonsense in this context. There is nothing to buy, so this definition does not apply.

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Quoting: Shmerl... and surely not going to use even more DRMed Stadia for same reason.

As I wrote above, Stadia is by its very design DRM free.

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I can imagine that this thing is actually entirely DRM free. I have no detailed knowledge of the system, so take it with a grain of salt. But it sounds like the games are made specifically for the google infrastructure. Since that is a trusted infrastructure, those games don't need DRM. You play the game and stream you control inputs to the server and get a picture and sound streamed back to you. No of these are sensitive to rights, so none of those streams need to be protected. It's like playing an arcade machine on a time fee instead of a per game fee. The only thing you could call DRM is the fact that you'll need an account to register payment. But that goes for GOG as well, so apparently nobody counts that as DRM. So conclusion, Stadia is entirely DRM free.

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I might give it a go when it's free, but I doubt I will play it for an extended period of time. It's still an MMO and with that comes all the bad stuff that is necessary to make it so that people of various levels can play together. I've never seen one that could keep me interested for more than a couple of hours.

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If this thing takes off, it may very well be the death of DX12.

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My first our in X4 was a bit strange. They'll certainly manage to confuse every new player. The tutorial system is a candidate for the worst tutorial of the year award.

After a few youtube videos to get the basic I set off again. This time with some basic, but essential knowledge. Picked up one of those secret mission and set off while exploring and getting the hang of it. A little later I had finished two parts of the mission and had moved through a few sectors. "A little" turned out to be four hours. :D

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Quoting: PatolaI love X: Rebirth but X4 is better in so many ways that I can't realistically get back to it today.

It is at least better at testing my rig. I optimistically thought I was fine to put everything up tot maximum. Wow, did that hurt in the starting station. :D

Other than that I'll have to start figuring it out. It doesn't really help you to even get started. One thing it does really well is to immediately make you feel tiny.

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