The only problem is still Wube not having knowledge on how to make a decent online store. They wanted to cut corners they should have implemented 3-D Secure and such and kept an history of key binded to transaction id, it's not rocket science.

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QuoteThis "new technologies" bit was interesting, perhaps they've decided to go DirectX 12 with an Unreal Engine upgrade?

They wouldn't make directX12 mandatory, so that can't make an argument.

QuoteUpdate: Psyonix are now suggesting to request a refund from them on their support portal.

Well that's bullshit cause their refund page states :

QuoteIf you'd like a refund for a Steam purchase, upon contacting them their own refunding criteria will apply. It is possible to qualify for one. This may trigger an automatic purchasing ban on our system. You can dispute the purchasing ban, we'll simply need you to submit a ticket with the explanation of the refund request. We'll take it from there!

https://support.rocketleague.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015502374-Refunds

So no refund possible after 2 weeks or 2hrs of playtime.

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Should I try to run games with Steam Linux Runtime instead of proton ? SLR is the default now. If it's based on containers how would that work if no one bothered making a container image for non whitelisted games ?

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I'm not confused on how to download a wine version, I'm confused on which I should download to suit my needs and what do they mean. It needs wine package descriptions and tags, as well as a filter feature.

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DedaleEspecially for us EU folks. It won't be at 675 € !

Yes, that's the current price of the few 3900X remaining. It probably won't be available before 2020 either.

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QuoteWe are focusing on meeting the strong demand for our 3rd generation AMD Ryzen processors in the market

Good. I'm still waiting for my 3900x

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ShmerlHm, according to this. EU already allowed it before. So what's new in this ruling?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine#Application_to_digital_copies

QuoteIn Europe, the European Court of Justice ruled, on July 3, 2012, that it is indeed permissible to resell software licenses even if the digital good has been downloaded directly from the Internet, and that the first sale doctrine applied whenever software was originally sold to a customer for an unlimited amount of time, as such sale involves a transfer of ownership, thus prohibiting any software maker from preventing the resale of their software by any of their legitimate owners.[5][6][7] The court requires that the previous owner must no longer be able to use the licensed software after the resale, but finds that the practical difficulties in enforcing this clause should not be an obstacle to authorizing resale, as they are also present for software which can be installed from physical supports, where the first-sale doctrine is in force.[8][9] The ruling applies to the European Union, but could indirectly find its way to North America; moreover the situation could entice publishers to offer platforms for a secondary market.

It's not "new" because it's not a new law, it's a ruling. Valve's EULA contains illegal clauses, the ruling confirms it.

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Avehicle7887DRM-Free stores would have to stop selling games to french customers otherwise they risk a serious issue.

I don't see how it affects them at all.

Avehicle7887This is a very bad call, and it shows clearly that the people making these decisions have no clue about games and of the challenges devs face every day. They're just paper pushers who didn't think of the consequences, which outweigh the benefits here.

Being able to resell what you own used to be possible. What's so horrible about getting that right back ?

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fagnerlnIf steam doesn't allow the user resell games from their library, is up to the user agree with it.

The users already voiced their opinion through the EU parliament : it is illegal to prevent a user from reselling.

If steam doesn't want to allow user to resell game, it can leave the EU market.

Liam Dawe

chancho_zombiewell you can sell your games ... you could sell all your account.

Pretty sure that's currently prohibited and can get the account banned if Valve found out.

Yes that's part of the ruling, tying the game to the account (and every services) is illegal. The game should be resellable by itself.

MalNedless to say that releasing an untested and badly optimized game would quickly become a suicidal move and nobody would do it.

How horrible.

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KimyrielleI can understand some of the points made in the OP, but this doesn't change the fact that preventing people from re-selling goods they legally BOUGHT is fundamentally wrong. It's just businesses abusing technology (DRM in this case) to enforce despicable business practices that wouldn't stand for 5 mins in court if we were talking about physical goods. Why it took the courts so long to toss out that ridiculous claim that buying games on Steam would be a "subscription" when it's clearly not, is beyond me.

Yes. Steam and other stores, and major publishers use the free market to their advantage (tax avoidance), but when it's our turn to profit from it, they set fences up to restrict our rights (zoning inside EU, fighting east european key resellers, ...). They've been using DRM to prevent us from reselling for more than a decade now, there's no reason to accept it.

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