Quoting: Guest

Quoting: damarrinFor someone who just wants to play an online game it’s irrelevant how the anti cheat is implemented and what it installs in their system as long as things continue working. If they’re not a cheater, they are happy they will have less of those to deal with.

It’s us Linux users who bring in other considerations like privacy and control over their own machines into the discussion, since these are among the reasons we use Linux in the first place. But we are 1 per cent. This discussion does not exist for the vast majority of people out there. It’s us who want to have our cake and eat it. And it’s not a jab or anything, I’m like this as well.

This is the result of the incredibly harmful capitalist propaganda. It's like how people in some countries view universial healthcare as a negative thing. But sadly computers and especially gaming is surrounded by some really nonsensical laws and unethical practices.

I don't think this has anything to do with capitalist propaganda. These companies are mostly profit driven, so if they get more money with this DRM, they will go for it. It's sad that people are buying those games, but I would also point on the thing that most gamers doesn't know that the game has DRM or what DRM even is. And some of them find out after buying the game, not before.

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Quoting: CorbenI'm wondering which are those price differences within the EU? Checking SteamDB the countries using Euros aren't listed separately. So I guess at least via the Steam store those prices are all the same. Then it will be keys that you can buy through retail boxes, and I guess there the store which sells them defines the price. Having those region locked seems strange to me.

Not every EU country uses EURO, for example I'm living in Czech Republic and we are still using Czech Koruna (CZK) and the price could be different.

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Quoting: damarrinFor someone who just wants to play an online game it’s irrelevant how the anti cheat is implemented and what it installs in their system as long as things continue working. If they’re not a cheater, they are happy they will have less of those to deal with.

It’s us Linux users who bring in other considerations like privacy and control over their own machines into the discussion, since these are among the reasons we use Linux in the first place. But we are t1 per cent. This discussion does not exist for the vast majority of people out there. It’s us who want to have our cake and eat it. And it’s not a jab or anything, I’m like this as well.

True. I've been vocal to my friends against Riot's anti-cheat for example, but despite how much I try to explain how dangerous and even nonsensical anticheat solutions like this are, they simply do not care. It could send nudes of them to 4chan for all they care, as long as it prevents cheating (which it doesn't, but makes you feel like it does so it's good enough I suppose). They lack the education to understand the issue in front of them and such education involes too much text they don't care to read.

Most of the people doesn't bother with these things. You need to accept them to play the game, so you really don't have choice, if you want to play it. It's the same as with EULA, you can't really Disagree with it and still use the product.

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Quoting: ShinyaOsen

Quoting: Zlopezat least there are legal options for games, not like for movies or music

I always forget how hard it can be to get DRM free music im so used to buying from bandcamp and japan and my dad buys classical music. Japan still has a CD market and have multiple DRM free digital stores some times you do need to vpn to be able to buy the music. Movie on the other had ya good luck trying to get a DRM free version in good quality legaly since Bluray's DRM hasnt been fully cracked like DVD.

I thought DRM-free music situation isn't bad. There are a number of good stores where you can get even DRM-free FLAC:

* https://bandcamp.com [External Link]
* https://us.7digital.com [External Link]
* https://uk.7digital.com [External Link]
* https://www.junodownload.com [External Link]
* https://store.tidal.com [External Link]
* https://www.prestomusic.com [External Link]
* https://www.prostudiomasters.com [External Link]
* https://www.hdtracks.com [External Link]
* https://www.jamendo.com [External Link]

Thanks for the links, most of the time I'm using Spotify for music (not really listening to it that much like few years ago and doesn't bother me if I don't own anything, for me it's just interactive radio). For looking on DRM free content I can also recommend this site https://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide [External Link]

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It will be better if the Gaming world would be DRM free (at least there are legal options for games, not like for movies or music). Without the Open Source engines reimplementations some games wouldn't even be playable today. And the DRM is not a cheap thing to use, so if the publishers would rather use these money for polishing the game they could probably have better profits. At least I like to hope that the publishers are the ones that want the DRM not the developers.

In case of anti-cheat, I'm not against using anti-cheat software server-side, but having it on client is actually not a good solution, especially if it prevents you to run the game in a few years or start it if you are not connected to some 3rd party server.

Saying all this, I'm still buying most of my games on Steam, because I want to support Valve on what it does for Linux. Keep it up, Gabe!

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The minigalaxy flatpak now has support for Proton community build, I tried to play LIMBO with it and it works without issue. :-)

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Quoting: ZlopezI'm using the Flathub version

FWIW, it's in the Fedora updates repo.

I'm using Fedora Silverblue, because I like the concept of it. So I prefer flatpaks where available. :-)

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Quoting: rat2000It is available also on flathub [External Link]

I'm using the Flathub version for some time and I'm missing the Wine support, but as far as I know the maintainers on Flathub are working on the solution for this.

For anybody interested, you can watch the progress here [External Link].

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Quoting: Anders1232That's great news! Since the long time it took to port The Warden & the Pauch DLC to Gnu/Linux I switched my install to use proton (which works nicely), but with the native version up to date I'm thinking in going back to native version.

I can only recommend it, it runs really smoothly :-)

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Nice to hear that the Linux port is here. I spent plenty of hours on TW: Warhammer 2 in the last few weeks. I finally learnt how to play it. I'm really happy for the work that Feral does :-)

EDIT: I tried to play it after the update, but I'm unable to load my previous campaign, because one DLC is now missing: Black Orc Big Boss.

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