Quoting: GuestScratching my head about all this 'scaling' discussions. I must be doing something wrong. I use (since 6 years) a 14" 2560x1440 Lenovo laptop. No scaling, I just changed the default font sizes. And I absolutely do not have 'eagle eyes'....

Yes, that's one of the other approaches, but it doesn't change the size of various OS elements, but a total valid and common approach as well...

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Quoting: Termymuch more annoying than the scaling discussion is that the 16" executive is always bundled with a dGPU...Besides that (and the battery that is smaller, probably as a result of the dGPU i would assume?) it really looks like a nice piece of kit.

One of the companies selling this hardware (I forget if it was Slimbook, Tuxedo, or Schenker) did let you delete the dGPU if you wished...

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Quoting: damarrinA 16” 16:10 screen, huh. That’s pretty cool. Shame about the res, I wonder what type of fractional scaling it needs to be useable.

Yes, that 16:10 screen on the Executive 14 has me seriously drooling, and Liam didn't mention that the 14 comes with a 99 whr battery!! Finally, a Linux laptop with a 16:10 screen with true all day AM to PM battery life...

Nope, 14 --> 47WHr battery

15 --> 92WHr battery (not 99)

They are the same base-laptop as the tuxedo pulse v2, Schenker Via Pro 15 updated (M22), Mechrevo, etc.

Actually, no, for the Executive look here [External Link]and multiple articles [External Link]:

Our new 14" model gets a battery boost from 53WHr to 99WHr thanks to the removal of a single M.2. port. If a second M.2 drive is a concern for you, the 16" model gets all your needs covered. With a huge 82WHr battery and two M.2. ports, the 16" Executive will last you a complete workday.

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Quoting: damarrinThe 14” is designed for 200% scaling and that is fine.

No way, that would be the equivalent of 1440 x 900. Display and text on that screen would be huge....

175% fractional I believe would be 1646 x 1030 equivalent, and 150% would be the standard 1920 x 1200. Rather than scale, I'd rather have the screen in that resolution and save a ton of battery life that wouldn't be used pushing all those extra pixels into display and text elements that are the same size.

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Quoting: GuestLove the UI

The UI is terrific and its use of the Gnome Human Interface Guidelines makes it look native and right at home with Gnome's newest apps.

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Quoting: damarrinA 16” 16:10 screen, huh. That’s pretty cool. Shame about the res, I wonder what type of fractional scaling it needs to be useable.

Seriously? How did you survive back just a few years ago when everything was lower res than that?
Edit: Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, here.

Perhaps you are? He's saying the resolution is so high it results in the OS and text elements being so small and hard to read that fractionally magnifying their size is needed to make the OS elements and text larger and legible. This is while maintaining the same screen resolution, so the magnified OS elements and text have an increased pixel density that also makes the elements and text "crisper" in addition to being easier to read since they're larger, pioneered from a marketing standpoint by Apple's Retina displays.

Most Linux (and even Windows and Mac) OS's do well with whole scaling of 200, 300, etc percent, but "fractional" scaling like 125% or 140%, etc on almost all OS's (but especially Linux) tend to have technical problem or display issues. It's being actively worked on but is likely a ways off from being perfect, if ever...

For the highly desirable Executive line above, a whole scaling of 200% would actually make the OS and text elements too large to be desirable for that native display, so something fractional will likely be needed... I have an Asus Zenbook S from 2020/21 and its 3:2 screen has a 3300x2200 display, and I use 200% fractional scaling there, and it's a *tad* bigger than I'd like (but works especially nicely and is perfect with the smaller fonts and buttons on the websites that my employer uses, so it's all good for me). The problem with the Zenbook is without tweaking its battery life is 5-6 hours, and with the (excellent) CPU throttling Gnome extension I can eek out 8 or so. The Executive is looking REALLY good right now.

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Quoting: damarrinA 16” 16:10 screen, huh. That’s pretty cool. Shame about the res, I wonder what type of fractional scaling it needs to be useable.

Yes, that 16:10 screen on the Executive 14 has me seriously drooling, and Liam didn't mention that the 14 comes with a 99 whr battery!! Finally, a Linux laptop with a 16:10 screen with true all day AM to PM battery life... This is absolutely the laptop I've been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for S76 to make. Two big downsides for me: 1) Seemingly no US keyboard, 2) As you point out, the resolution will almost certainly require fractional scaling, probably 175% for the 14? My understanding from what I read is that fractional scaling in Gnome kind of breaks xwayland in Wayland, and X apps end up a bit blurry. In X11, fractional scaling is apparently choppy. That may be fixed in 6 months or so, but not yet. Supposedly the Executive is on-sale in August.

My hope is that Tuxedo and Schenker, who use the same hardware OEM as Simbook and made lower resolution 1920 X 1200 16:10 screens available in the prior generation, emulate the 99 whr battery move with the 1920 x 1200 screens. That kind of arrangement would likely get monster crazy battery life, as I read those screens in the prior generation with the 53 whr battery could hit 9-10 hours. Those two makers are expected to unveil their next generations of the same hardware within the next 1-2 mo.

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Quoting: Avehicle7887I remember switching to full time Linux in 2014. This site was amazing even at that time.

Me too, roughly 2013/14 moving full time over from Chromebooks.

I say it every year on the site's birthday, but for me there *is no* gaming on Linux without GOL, and without this site here throughout all of those years to shepherd me and all of us through Linux gaming's up and downs, perhaps I don't decide to stay with Linux full time in that early, critical period. Thanks GOL for everything, and here's to the next 13 and more years!

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Quoting: slaapliedjeSo if No Man's Sky is verified... anyone try hooking up the Index to the Deck to see if they can play that in VR?

Thank you for giving me my first full-throated, out-loud laugh of the day. Not laughing at your question, but more laughing thinking to myself, "Linux gamers are awesome." :smile:

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Quoting: MohandevirI don't think that Linux on the desktop will ever be mainstream. The chokehold that Microsoft has on this market segment is nearly impossible to break. But, I've said it multiple times: "Linux shines in a dedicated hardware use cases." We now have another good example of that.

I actually think it's more mainstream than it's ever been given how functional it is, how much is moving to the cloud, and how many programming languages are moving to multi-platform implementation.

Mainstream as a percentage of users - Well, there you're likely right, and I actually think it's possibly likely to get worse there simply because Windows isn't so bad it's pushing people off the platform anymore. Modern Windows is fully usable and functional and no longer is a laggy, miserable mess after several months of use. Oh, it's not great to be sure, but there will be fewer people like me who, like happened to me in 2012, was so furious at how bad Windows was that I was actively seeking out alternatives - and here I am.

Sadly, we'll see less of that and have to more appeal to tinkerers for future users (like Rapsberry Pis and other hardware cases, as you say). I'd personally like to see a lot more emphasis on Linux on phone hardware now, as that's what most people use for "computers" these days.

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