Quoting: FUltraAFAIK the Ubuntu Kylin is mostly for officials and the vast majority of Chinese people are running pirated Windows.

Pirated Windows seem to be very popular in my country too and with Linux being so capable of almost everything I really don't see a reason for such things... I don't see a point in pirating a Windows version that you use for Facebook and browsing or some basic text editing... well people can be strange and especially uninformed.

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Quoting: sarmadValve was obviously waiting on Vulkan for pushing the entire SteamOS ecosystem, not just the VR part, which is understandable.

I really hope that this is the case and that things will start growing again for the SteamOS and ultimately we will benefit much from that! :D

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Great way to break your promise, lose market and reveal that money is all you care about. Using some platform-specific tools? Do they really think that we are stupid enough to believe this nonsense? Feral is porting AAA titles that are built exclusively for another platform with as "platform specific tools" as they can get. And they do it AWESOMELY!

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Quoting: XpanderAsian market growth explains why linux numbers dropped in hardware survey :) Asians don't use linux that much

Don't chinese have their own Linux distro Ubuntu Kylin that's actually official flavour of Ubuntu made for China? :D But yeah Asia is big -.- hopefully we will see some more of them on Linux as well :)

Linux has already got a bunch of great stuff in 2016... Wayland coming into play, AMD's new drivers, Vulkan, new Skype for Linux alpha (MS has decided to support linux? xD is MS Office next since there is way too many alternatives now for them to be completely comfortable with their Windows exclusive software...), a bunch of great new Steam games, Steam VR... Probably it also got a plenty of kernel related things but I'm not into that much... Overall I think that this year happened more great things than in the last few years combined :) Hopefully things will go on with the same tempo as they do now!

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Great job to Valve again! They sure know what kind of power the open-source holds... and they did not break their promise to Linux, I think that they just ran into so many problems with OpenGL for graphics and also ports that they became quiet and postponed their Linux hype for better times. We will now just wait for Vulkan to stabilize and hopefully they will from now on provide us with more Vulkan ports from DX12 and other games :) They have already proven with Dota 2 that Vulkan is really worthy opponent to closed DX12 and if it's really that easy to port games from DX12 to Vulkan I guess that Linux gaming will improve even more in years to come :)

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Quoting: ZeloxValve could probably afford it. With there money making client ^^.

They absolutely could, but they said it's against their philosophy (they like to make better PC gaming on all platforms and don't like exclusives and closing things down, which is one of the reasons why they are investing into Linux).

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Quoting: ZeloxI know this is starting to be a very bad joking. But we need some title like hl3 for linux for a month before it goes out on windows. Could boost the Linux user base, Judging by the small playerbase Linux still have I dont see any point in VR for linux.
At the monent VR is very expensiv for the avrage consumer and you need a beast of a pc to play.
Most of the titles I know of atleast only support Windows, and some very few mac.

I know some new tech will come to the VR headset I dunno if its the next generation or if it can be applyed to this to, but it will make it less demanding on the hardware required.
But who knows, maybe valve got it all figured out already, and to be fair, its not really fair to force a player base to an os or a system. Like the console wars seems to do now adays.

I think that we would need a few totally exclusive titles, this is what would really help to bring few gamers to linux at least to dual boot... But developers can't afford to produce a great linux exclusive that majority of people won't even buy and play in their opinion... and if people buy Xbox one and PS4 for few exclusives I'm 100% sure that they would install linux for few exclusives as well :)

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: MaCroX95Wow, I was really starting to get concerned what is going on with their Linux support for VR, seems like Valve will never forget about Linux, they are making it stronger gaming platform slowly but surely :)

It's really quite a special company. Like... "We've got money. We've got time. We don't care." X)

Yeah... they relatively have no profit of investing all this money into Linux gaming support and everything that comes with it, but honestly all developers should be like that either they make money from it or not. Because Linux is not about proprietary stuff and closing things down... and we are thankful to everyone who decides to support us, there are cross-platform frameworks and graphic APIs now that support all platforms and all developers should adopt them to make gaming better and more open from the ground up.

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Wow, I was really starting to get concerned what is going on with their Linux support for VR, seems like Valve will never forget about Linux, they are making it stronger gaming platform slowly but surely :)

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Quoting: cxphergmailcom

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: cxphergmailcomActually, every Linux user I know and all of you here are obviously gamers. It think it's a gross assumption that many aren't.

Biggest thread on most game discussions on Steam are Linux port requests.

You mean, people on GamingForLinux and Steam are gamers? Really? Wow.

My wife and my mother-in-law are using Linux but are not gamers.

Yes. You read me right. If you're here and you're not a gamer, then you're at the wrong site.

Go to www.omgubuntu.co.uk.

Same goes for Steam.

My point was that gamers are a minority on both Windows and Linux, on this site obviously every one is a gamer but you cannot compare marketashare of Linux gamers vs the Marketshare of Linux desktop users... proportion is completely different

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