Quoting: ShmerlWe for sure should not give them a pass for bad behavior of not upstreaming their drivers. They have no excuses. They are a bad player in the Linux ecosystem and they know it.

We for sure should not give AMD a pass for releasing and selling broken products to Linux users and act like it is completely normal.
What good are those "upstreamed drivers" if they do not work? GPU market is no charity, every company (AMD included) wants money. If AMD wants to cut expenses by essentially outsourcing their drivers to some enthusiasts/companies developing Linux kernel -- fine. But I must remind you that providing auxiliary software (mandatory for proper work of their sold hardware) is the company's direct obligation.
nVidia, on the other hand, provides its products in working order and on time and is its full right to chose how to do so (in nVidia's case -- by syncing the driver codebase with Windows).
If you are insisting that nVidia is a "bad player", then I must conclude that so is AMD.
The silver lining is: nVidia needs no excuses. Especially after being the only reliable GPU manufacturer in the most dire times for Linux (2006-2011), when most of the gaming/porting companies went belly-up and everything looked like gaming on Linux is a pipe dream (and honestly, it would seem totally wise to drop useless Linux driver).

"They have no excuses" -- these words just do not have merit in this case.

Honestly, this went too off-topic.

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Quoting: ZlopezI think this situation is slowly changing after AMD started to officially support Open Source drivers.
I was a NVIDIA guy a few years back, but now I'm pretty happy with AMD Radeon RX 590 :-)

Ahh, come on! nVidia has great Vulkan drivers and has been supporting Linux since who knows when (I switched from "Windows XP" in 2008 and even then the drivers were top-notch!). Unlike ATi/AMD which can not even provide a day-1 support for the shiny "RX5700" cards.
But no, we must stay vigilant! We must continue our bashing on one of the leading graphics solutions companies because it is not open-source enough. :dizzy:
I am speaking as the one pretty happy owning a nVidia GeForce GTX 1660Ti :-)

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Alm888

Will you be trying it out?

Will I?
Well, I am not even allowed to (remember, only US and some selected few countries are elegible).

As I understand it, next year they will be expanding the regions so you might eventually I guess.

Well, to be honest, I myself is a firm anti-DRM fighter, not even willing to tolerate Steam™, let alone this DRM_From_Hell-incarnation.
And besides, technically speaking, I share the "input lag" skepticism. May be it will be tolerable in some regions, but it will definitely not cover the whole "PC Marketshare".

After all, many have tried the "streaming service" model, many have failed. And what makes Google any different? A big name? Hardly sufficient, IMO.

Yet, it will be interesting to watch how this latest attempt will disrupt the "status quo" (with Vulkan being behind all of this).

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Will you be trying it out?

Will I?
Well, I am not even allowed to (remember, only US and some selected few countries are elegible).

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Yeah, sure…

And "Unreal Tournament 3" with "The Witcher 3" for good measure.

Sadly, words are cheap. Double so when it comes down to Linux support. :sick:

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Bookmarked it!

Sorry, 40€ as a "discount" is just too much for a Kickstarter project (in my country, at least). :(

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Quoting: Liam DaweAs said by others, Valve don't pay developers for exclusive deals. In the case of the original EVERSPACE, it's available on many stores and I expect them to do the same here when it's released. In the case of Early Access, Steam's tools are just better than GOG's and it's easier for developers to manage while the game is in flux.

I have never said Valve paid them to go exclusive. Pay attention, please. I just wondered (even if foolishly, as I now realize) about why one store's exclusive is immensely better than the the store's.

Granted, there is no word that "EVERSPACE 2" will be Valve's exclusive. But the wording was so full of "Steam Is Everything For Us" so my emotions got better of me and no I realize my comment was an unintentional trolling. That was not what I wanted to start. :'(
And as for availability on other stores… according to how this usually goes, I prefer to use the "I'll Believe If If I See It" approach.

in any case, from now I will cease to participate in further discussion about "Storefront Holy Wars".

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Quoting: Liam DaweEach update of Unity improves all the APIs, OpenGL and Vulkan included. Even if they're not doing Vulkan, it will likely be smoother on OpenGL since more advanced features work better and are supported on OpenGL in later releases. It all helps.

In my understanding, it is not enough for the engine (Unity3D in this case) to support a feature (advanced features of OpenGL). A developer's will to use it is mandatory. AFAIK, they can simply choose to continue to use OpenGL 3.3 core profile (or "compatibility profile" or something like that). In the news there is not only any words about new API for Linux, but it is explicitly stated that the new API is "DirectX 11". I am afraid, anything else is wishful thinking by this point.

Not that we won't benefit from updated textures and new parts, of course. ^_^

Quoting: KimyrielleFunny how quick Indie developers are with abandoning us, as soon as they get bigger and more famous. :S

To be honest, I must point out that "KSP2" is being developed by completely different studio under the mandate from the publisher (maybe because it wasn't sure in Squad's capabilities after all of the initial staff has left it?). So, thechnically, it is not the same people who made the KSP who are now "abandoning us".

Speaking of which, I think this "Uber Entertainment", I mean "Star Theory" is making some sort of hollow KSP-lookalike abomination.
Updated graphics and rewritten from scratch engine is one thing (even if it is an excuse not to support Linux), but going full space opera fantasy is entirely different!
Come on!
Another solar systems? How, on what "hyperdrive" are they gonna get there (in a reasonable timeframe)?!
The Orion drive (not to be confused with the capsule by the same name)?!! On what premise are we supposed to comply with that discarded utopian project (with nuke bombs as the "fuel"). Why not "EMDrive" or space siphons, for example?
And multiplayer? With the "developer" describing it as "I never heard people laugh so hard", nonetheless!!! Since when KSP became about "LOOK, what a cool explosion!" and not about "wonderful designs breaking up against the harsh reality of physics"?

Simplified or not, KSP is about real technology with proven (or at least doable) technology. If I need some space fantasy, I'd play "X4: Foundations". :sick:

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Rest in peace, Józef Kucia.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Alm888So… Steam-exclusive, then. Whew… That's a lot better. :whistle:

Serious question, I don't know: Does Epic sells stuff non-exclusively as well?

Honestly, I don't know for sure. But I was under impression, that yes, some of the games from "Epic Games Store" one could find in another places (particulerily, the "free" indie stuff Timmy is using to lure gamers).

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The Unity game engine is going to be seeing an update which will bring in things like updated graphics APIs.

Not for Linux though. They will be switching to DirectX 11 with the upcoming update, no words on Vulkan.

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