Quoting: HendrinMckaySomeone at CD Projekt Red(GOG's sister company) or GoG.com had to have said yes list us, before they realize how difficult it was going to be.

That's not GOG's authority to decide whether to release CDPR's game on Steam (for any platform, incl. Linux) or not. From the CDProjekt's side it is either CDPR or CDProjekt itself to blame. But even that is not confirmed by evidence. What we really have at our hands are two (AFAIR) banners on Valve's Steam™ site, at least one of which mentions Valve's SteamOS™. It is hard to imagine GOG has admin access to Valve's site. BTW, did we hear any apologies from Valve? Nope!

Quoting: HendrinMckayOr maybe perhaps as the result of the reception of the Witcher 2 wine wrapped release?

That one is hard to believe for me. That theory was spoken out by one fired (AFAIR) VirtualProgramming® worker. Apparently, we must believe his word. No hard evidence, no comments from VP or CDPR itself. I'd not rule out personal motives for highly possible false statement (AKA FUD).

Quoting: HendrinMckayI'm the reverse to be honest, I hate regional pricing. Why? In most cases if I pay in US funds, it is cheaper for me than paying in CDN funds. This goes for both Steam and GOG. Hence why almost all of my purchases as of late are via Itch.io or the odd Humble Bundle purchase.

I see. Well, I pay only ≈38% of USD price in my currency. It is getting ridiculous sometimes when I can get non-discounted game on GOG cheaper than with 50% discount on Humble Store.

Quoting: HendrinMckayEDIT: I can understand preferring DRM-FREE releases. I really do and prefer them myself. The sad reality is that with so many folks buying on Steam vs how many buy from GoG, many developers are going to target Steam first. I'm not going to miss out on a good Linux title just because it wasn't released on GoG.

I've made much more sacrifices when switched to Linux full time without any DualBoot-ing or VMs. Not a single string of my soul will tremble if I skip yet another dozen or even hundred of Steam-exclusive games, no matter how good they are. After all, I have a rather sizable stack of un-played games at my GOG account alone.

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Quoting: LeopardNo , Feral's and VP's ported games are not on GOG store with Windows form at the first place. So there is nothing shady on there , Feral and VP can't override the policy of publisher / IP owner company.

Well, that is true, I admit. But their answers on the matter (during Reddit AMA) were dodgy at best. And their Mac port of "Tropico 4" is not on GOG (or any place apart from Steam) either.

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Quoting: HendrinMckayI believe he(sic) means it being advertised as coming to Steam Hardware as advertised on Steam's site way back, and then never being released for Linux.

Ah! Now I got it. Well, as it have been said, that were Steam's (Valve's) and CDPR's problems. GOG has virtually nothing to do with that scam. Not that I am defending GOG, it has lots of problems: Galaxy ("In Progress"™, yeah!), support ("Use Ubuntu"™), missing Linux versions (this one, I suspect, is partially related to some Valve secret agreements with developers/porters, Feral™ in particular). But these are no excuses for outright bashing GOG for others' blunders.

Itch.io… It is good, but it does allow Steam-keys "releases" which makes it hardly any different than "IGN Bundle" Inc. Plus, it does not have regional pricing which is a huge con for me. :(

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Quoting: sbolokanovOnly if there were more worthy games at GOG…

Verily!

Quoting: sbolokanov…and Linux support was a bit more serious.

Verily! x2

Quoting: sbolokanovAnd above all, the fiasco with Witcher 3 didn't happen.

Strange. I thought W3 was a success. Not up to the scale of "Fallout 4", but a success nonetheless.

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Good.
Basically this Apple failure works in our advantage. I hope in a few years no-one will remember Metal was ever a thing. :)

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I use whatever WINE version is bundled with the distro and don't care which it is as long as all of the games I own have PLATINUM rating at WINEDB (and I always make sure the game I want to get has that rating). It is a lot easier this way, than trying to make WINE work, and I'm too old for all that custom launch keys/version mactchmaking/DLL scavenging/winetricks BS. ;)

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Quoting: etonbearsThis is, I suppose, why SteamOS seems to have failed. There was never really enough of a coherent plan to get people buying anything that came with Linux by default.

And at least part of the reason why: Valve did not promote Linux, it promoted "SteamOS" (or tried to do so) while forcefully removing the word "Linux" and even Tux icon from it. I bet half of the general audience hadn't got a clue about what OS it was.

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Quoting: LeopardSo as a perspective of a dev ; why should i put effort for a Linux version? You can use Linux and rant about it but eventually you're buying them on Windows.

Spot-on!

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Quoting: KimyrielleBut mildly intrusive systems like Steam's are still better than having no games at all.

Yeah-yeah, "It's better than nothing!" (© "Deep Silver" )

Quoting: KimyrielleI guess I wouldn't even BE here, because I'd still use Windows 99% of the time when playing games, instead of the other way around, which Valve had no small part in making possible.

Guess what? Nothing's changed! You still have to use Windows if you want to play modern overhyped AAAAAAAAA-games (like "PUBG" or "Assassin's Creed" ).

And I am, honestly, totally OK with the fact of not being able to play every single game ever made (I would need to get a lot of different game consoles to do so), so I can certainly live without Steam-exclusive games, it's not that I am experiencing a game shortage with 50 purchased but not yet played games on GOG account (and some hundreds of games on "Humble Bundle" account).

Quoting: KimyrielleIf people like you would finally put their knuckleheaded ideology away and start buying games from Steam they would have bought from GOG without even thinking twice, publishers like Paradox wouldn't think about dropping support for us.

Like all those GOG users suddenly decided they are OK with DRM and switched to Steam. Sure, that will happen. :P

Quoting: KimyrielleIn other words, yes, I think you're a part of the problem here.

No, I am part of the solution! :D

Quoting: KimyriellePS: I hope you don't have any Android/iOS smartphone, any streaming subscription or cable TV either. All of these have built-in DRM, so you folks have to boycott them, too!

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I "rooted" my smartphone and removed all Google-crap from it (using F-droid and totally happy). And yes, I do not have cable-TV (or TV at all) or streaming subscriptions (fsck Tvitch!) because I am trying do be a model citizen and not have bad habits (I also do not smoke or drink) :D
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Quoting: UltraAltesBrotParadox games are DRM free, see here.

Sorry, but I see Steam, Steam and Steam in the link and as we all know Steam does not allow game downloads without its DRM client (and needless to say neither of the three games interests me). I have nothing against Paradox personally (even brought Tyranny on GOG, which shows, they can do DRM-free when they want to).

I'll start using Steam the first minute Valve removes its DRM-client (or makes it optional).

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