Quoting: LeopardSo as a perspective of a dev ; why should i put effort for a Linux version? You can use Linux and rant about it but eventually you're buying them on Windows.

Spot-on!

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Quoting: KimyrielleBut mildly intrusive systems like Steam's are still better than having no games at all.

Yeah-yeah, "It's better than nothing!" (© "Deep Silver" ) :whistle:

Quoting: KimyrielleI guess I wouldn't even BE here, because I'd still use Windows 99% of the time when playing games, instead of the other way around, which Valve had no small part in making possible.

Guess what? Nothing's changed! You still have to use Windows if you want to play modern overhyped AAAAAAAAA-games (like "PUBG" or "Assassin's Creed" ).

And I am, honestly, totally OK with the fact of not being able to play every single game ever made (I would need to get a lot of different game consoles to do so), so I can certainly live without Steam-exclusive games, it's not that I am experiencing a game shortage with 50 purchased but not yet played games on GOG account (and some hundreds of games on "Humble Bundle" account).

Quoting: KimyrielleIf people like you would finally put their knuckleheaded ideology away and start buying games from Steam they would have bought from GOG without even thinking twice, publishers like Paradox wouldn't think about dropping support for us.

Like all those GOG users suddenly decided they are OK with DRM and switched to Steam. Sure, that will happen. :P

Quoting: KimyrielleIn other words, yes, I think you're a part of the problem here.

No, I am part of the solution! :D

Quoting: KimyriellePS: I hope you don't have any Android/iOS smartphone, any streaming subscription or cable TV either. All of these have built-in DRM, so you folks have to boycott them, too!

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I "rooted" my smartphone and removed all Google-crap from it (using F-droid [External Link] and totally happy). And yes, I do not have cable-TV (or TV at all) or streaming subscriptions (fsck Tvitch!) because I am trying do be a model citizen and not have bad habits (I also do not smoke or drink) :D
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Quoting: UltraAltesBrotParadox games are DRM free, see here [External Link].

Sorry, but I see Steam [External Link], Steam [External Link] and Steam [External Link] in the link and as we all know Steam does not allow game downloads without its DRM client (and needless to say neither of the three games interests me). I have nothing against Paradox personally (even brought Tyranny on GOG, which shows, they can do DRM-free when they want to).

I'll start using Steam the first minute Valve removes its DRM-client (or makes it optional).

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Sorry, Paradox, but DRM-free or it didn't happen. I won't give Valve a cent.

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Quoting: BeamboomOooh - do I sense a fighter? Alright, I'll offer a new chance to win those €10:

My odds were always good :)

Oh, I'm sorry, but you seem to mistook me. Money was never an issue and I stand by my words.

My actions were (and still are) pointed towards telling people not to jump a hype train before release (well, and to entertain myself, ). No Tux == No Bucks, basically. We know "The Witcher III" was also "confirmed" (as were "Batman"™, "Street Fighter"™, "Giana Sisters"™ and sh**load of other ports). So, this announcement basically changes nothing.

Let our bet be intact.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Alm888Doesn't count, sorry. :whistle:

You're right, but we wouldn't bet a penny on your side anymore. ;)

That's quite understandable. :P However, I'd like to know, how much you already bet on my side till this day. :D

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Quoting: ShmerlWhich reminds me, I should play Fallout New Vegas. I've bought it on one of the GOG sales but never played it before. From what I've heard, it's supposed to be the best of the Fallout games.

No, Fallout 2 is the best of Fallout games, ever! :D

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Quoting: BeamboomWell, that was faster than even I expected.

Doesn't count, sorry. :whistle:
Feral can say whatever they want, until it gets release it is not here.

Don't get me wrong, your chances have risen dramatically right now, I acknowledge that.

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Windows has support for both DX12 and Vulkan.

LOL! With their level of expertise I doubt they can handle even DirectX 9, let alone Vulkan or other low-level "close to hardware" API. :D

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Quoting: Beamboom

Quoting: Alm888How about other stores? Something that not restrict games by region… GOG? itch.io?

If they include Steam keys in their offerings it's fine with me?

Or how about the Humble Bundle store? That's Steam keys too. Or maybe only Steam keys?

Fine by me.

So, to summarize, we make a wager.
I, Alm888, say "Rise of the Tomb Raider" will not be released on Linux during 2018 and if this is true you, Beamboom, are obliged to gift me a game of my choosing not exceeding $12 (sorry, I want to count in $, hope it is OK) on a store of my choosing.

You, Beamboom, say "Rise of the Tomb Raider" will be released on Linux during 2018 and if true, I, Alm888, am obliged to gift you a game of your choosing not exceeding $12 on a store of your choosing, except Steam.

Is everything OK?

This should be fun. In the worst case scenario (for me) I will have the opportunity to actually test a gifting system! :)

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