Quoting: STiATIt may be that I didn't observe the Driver development too closely lately, but judging the lack of updates recently by valve on our mesa buglist I thought they're taking a different direction / Approach.

The push is clear: Vulkan. The issue is smaller Studios working with their own engines. The big Players (Crytek, Id, Epic, Croteam, Unity3D) will all head for Vulkan for the Linux Export target, that seems pretty clear by now.

AFAIK the heavy involvement of Valve in mesa and especially DRM (as the DRM patches are still coming along) are primarily for VR. If you didn't notice: Valve introduced a whole new infrastructure of borrowing the display/DRM from whichever applications is the master of DRM, which usually is the X11 server.
So an application can now borrow the display (read VR headset) from X11, and have 0 copy communications with the GPU to update that display. With X11 or wayland or whatever out of the way, any VR application actually has the equivalent of direct access to the display buffer and refresh timing.

But this way, you can start your X11 server, borrow the drm and start wayland or another X11 server. Or start a master X11 server, and start a slave X11 per display for single-card-multi-seat setups.

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Quoting: ArdjeIf Battle Royale is the same as Last-Man-Standing, can we please call it LMS? I am too old for hypes.

Last Man Standing is too sexist, I guess.

Battle Royale certainly isn't new, though.
The movie came out in 2000, and that is where the name comes from. At least that is what I assumed and what Wikipedia seems to confirm: Wikipedia link [External Link]

Video game adaptations of the battle royale survival concept became popular in the mid-2010s, with games such as Day Z, H1Z1: King of the Kill, PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds and Fortnite.

Then again, I don't know just how old you are ;)

I've seen all battle royale movies. They rock.
The term LMS predates the movie a lot though, as it was already a standard gameplay feature in unreal tournament... I reckon quake2 and quakeworld (the quake1 version) already featured it as a mod. And it took a long time before the movie became a cult hit.
So yes, LMS has been the long time term for LMS style games until PUBG called LMS battle royale as if it is a completely new gametype.
And yes, I am old. I am not be really lying if I put in 0 as my birth time(2), it would only be 32Ms off. That's way less than the average uptime of my systems.

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Meeh...
Anyone that lurks a bit on the right IRC channels knows Valve is heavily involved in linux. Especially VR.
Having the steam machine promotion display did hurt steamos more than removing it. Because non of the partners were actually selling them, with the exception for alienware and zotac. In that respect: the zotac >> alienware in specs, so I now have a zotac for 1.5 years. No new steam branded machines have been "designed" since.
I think valve should make the branding more like "steamos compatible" instead of steam machine.
And with steamos compatible, I mean it should run at least a decent amount of the linux ports. That might be tough since all games seems to be made for nvidia.

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Quoting: ShabbyXI would encourage people to buy headsets if I were you, Liam.

I am suddenly thinking that it's easily fixed by:
for i in $(seq 1000 9999); do useradd steam$i;done
and start steam for each user, and use their e-mail addresses for new steam accounts... :-)

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Quoting: ShabbyX> For Linux gamers, I'm not sure if makes much sense picking one up right now. Not only is Linux VR support still quite raw, there's not a great deal of titles available.

It may be hard to raise us above 1% in sales in general, but if many Linux-exclusive gamers buy VR headsets, it would be easy to make us say 20% of VR market. That would be good for us.

We are at a point in history when we are not affected (much) by the chicken&egg problem w.r.t to VR. Not buying headsets because there are few games will only make sure this problem will become a reality for VR as well.

I would encourage people to buy headsets if I were you, Liam.

I did not think of it that way. But that's a good idea.
The problem with the current vive though is that it has no hardware adjustable IPD (2 screens).
But if the price drop is ok..

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Quoting: CorbenI'm still thinking about getting the Vive Pro. It really is a heavy price, especially compared to getting just the HMD with the connector box and not a complete bundle. So it's targeted for owners of the original Vive as an upgrade. Getting a complete bundle would put another 300€ for 2 base stations and another 290€ for two Vive controllers on top of the price of the Vive Pro. Man, that accessories is as much money as the old Vive bundle.

I was already discussing that with someone that already has the vive...
But buying his vive would still mean I need to buy the accessories, which has the same price as just a vive (599.96 euro for the accessories vs 599.00 for a complete set).
It does have an advantage that vive owners probably can buy a second vive for cheap, and have 2 VR setups working at the same time... You just need a pair of extra controllers and another PC, as the base stations just need to be there.

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If Battle Royale is the same as Last-Man-Standing, can we please call it LMS? I am too old for hypes.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeI'm the proud owner of two Atari Lynx's and two SD Lynx Carts. :) Brilliant machine for the time, too bad it had poor battery life and Atari wasn't able to market it very well and get developers on board...

I almost feel bad for giving my two Atari Lynx I away to a friend. OTOH, he really gives them TLC, that's worth something...
But sd-lynx carts... You can finally play alien on it!
Or all the other games that exist but were never ever sold. Actually abused as road filling in the USA. Blasphemy!

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It works fine on the GPD WIN as far as I could configure.
I still need to configure the controls to have any meaning in NWN.
Another thing is that there is no fullscreen (yet), and the gnome F11 refuses to fullscreen it.

The original NWN seems to be able to do fullscreen, but somehow it messes everything up and displays the neverwinternights halfway the screen.
But it still works.

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I used to have an agreement with a local software shop. I told them to sent me 1 linux game every month that they didn't sent me already, whatever the price.
It was an easy agreement, and it dried up pretty quickly without me loosing significant money.
These days it's hard. I have to make choices. I wish steam had budgeting helpers. I can afford 100 euro a month, and it should just auto-select from my wish list the games that are appropriate for my budget.
But I have to choose everything by myself these days, so I stopped buying :-(.
There is so much I still want to buy, but I am limiting my buying but then I feel bad for those that I did not buy.
It's hard to be a satisfied linux gamer these days :-(.

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