These are all local vulnerabilities - can't be exploited remotely. I, uh, can't really get very excited by such things unless they're feasibly chained with a remote exploit.

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Loved this game when I played it... 1996? 1997? Somewhere around there, I think.

I replayed it via Dosbox in the late 2000's and boy it had definitely aged. The control scheme is what tripped me up the most. I'm having that same problem this week with System Shock Remastered. Controls in games back then were awful!

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: damarrinTo rain a little on everyone's parade (mine included), people on another gaming website I go to have been saying en masse how it's an instant Windows install for it to be even remotely useful. That's what the "general public" thinks, unfortunately :-(

I think realistically only a very tiny percentage of people are interested in installing OSes at all. And many of those who do, would prefer Linux. Regular user simply isn't interested or not even sure how to install an OS, no matter Linux or Windows. So I wouldn't worry about the above at all.

So if you want to analyze the "general public" - it's a major plus that device is coming with Linux preinstalled, because that's what they'll be using.

Yep. You want figures on roughly how many people will install a new O/S? How does roughly 1% sound? :grin:

Looking forward to hearing stories of people bricking their £500 toy trying to install Windows on it. The Win10 kernel is a bit better with some stuff these days, but it still needs drivers for a pretty high number of components. Basically installing Windows is much, much harder than installing Linux, even putting aside the 100Gb+ you need for it to actually work.

No thanks.

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Quoting: Supay

Quoting: scaineGreat to see actual hardware, instead of a loose spec.

Great to see it running Linux on custom AMD hardware.

Great to see twin sticks and twin touchpads.

Great to see a pledge from Valve on the subject of anticheat. Very excited by this!

Maybe I missed it, but I'm surprised that third party app support like Netflix, Prime and Spotify hasn't been mentioned?

But overall, I'm super-excited. Reckon I'll stick myself in the pre-order queue. For £4, I can always change my mind when my delivery date comes through and they ask for payment. Although... I doubt I will change my mind. This whole thing just looks pretty damn epic.

I think the third party apps built in would really cement this device, for those who just want them there ready to use. You can obviously just load up a browser and login or install services manually yourself, but a slicker ready to go option would be best for most people.

For this to work, I'm definitely talking about native apps for the third party services. While many would love to, I'm definitely not hacking on this thing. It's a consumer handheld. I expect it to work natively with these apps, or I won't be using them, and that question will be a consideration for many when they think about how they'll use this device.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: KohlyKohlI'm also concerned about the switch to Arch. I would have preferred a more stable distribution such as Ubuntu.

It's not like you're going to be installing a stack of AUR stuff. Someone's carefully set up bare-bones Arch is probably very stable.

Arch is inherently less stable by design. Adding in the AUR just makes it more unstable. Arch has its place I just don't think a consumer device is one of them.

Just because it's based on Arch doesn't mean it needs to have Arch issues. The updates are still tested and controlled by Valve. It is SteamOS, not Arch.

Absolutely agree. I run Arch on my desktop and some various home servers. My desktop is the messiest with AUR stuff wedged and lots of random bits I tinker with, and even that hasn't had any issues in a long time. The issues I have had were ones I caused. My servers are kept lean and focused, and I have never had an issue with them. Even when I slack off and realise I haven't updated packages in months, it all just works as it's as minimal as possible.

On the contrary, I recently switched to Ubuntu to give it a go again, expecting it to be something that would just work and have a decent default experience. Sure, it installed easily and had a flashy GUI, and I didn't have to manually do everything as I do when installing Arch, however I have had more issues with Ubuntu in a few weeks than I had on Arch in the last two years. Stuff that just worked in Arch due to up to date packages and a huge central repo has involved forum scouring for fixes, random private repos added, and a host of other issues. Give me Arch anyday.

My experience: the exact opposite of yours. Nothing works easily on Arch, the AUR has heaps of outdated keys and I had to troubleshoot basic things like gamepads not working which work out of the box on Debian/Ubuntu distros.

You know what you know, I suppose, and there are significant differences between the big core distros that experience in one of them doesn't necessarily translate to a good experience in the others.

For a device like this though? Who cares if it's Arch? I'm not going to be looking up the arch wiki if something doesn't work on this thing. I'll be using Valve support, or sending the unit back.

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Great to see actual hardware, instead of a loose spec.

Great to see it running Linux on custom AMD hardware.

Great to see twin sticks and twin touchpads.

Great to see a pledge from Valve on the subject of anticheat. Very excited by this!

Maybe I missed it, but I'm surprised that third party app support like Netflix, Prime and Spotify hasn't been mentioned?

But overall, I'm super-excited. Reckon I'll stick myself in the pre-order queue. For £4, I can always change my mind when my delivery date comes through and they ask for payment. Although... I doubt I will change my mind. This whole thing just looks pretty damn epic.

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Big Red Racing... is... is that you??

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Quoting: sigzPerfect time to take a look at the old news from 2010 :D https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2010/08/steam-not-coming-to-linux-valve

Well... that didn't age well!! Thankfully! :grin:

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I love these round-ups. I'm sitting here thinking - where the hell did June go? Then you post this, and it's such an eye opener. Makes you realise that June was quite packed after all, thankyouverymuch!

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Life is Strange: True Colors will be launching for Stadia on September 10.

I wonder if that means they'll release a native version? Some (but not all) of the Life Is Strange games were ported by Feral. This one only currently lists Windows support. Already having a Stadia version's got to encourage a native version at some point, right?

Well, that was certainly the dream. In fact, it sounds like Stadia, as a target, has very different requirements from the desktop builds. So different, in fact, that the fact that Stadia is Linux is largely irrelevant. At this point, all I'm really hoping for is that Stadia adoption drives Vulkan and largely kills off DirectX games, outside of the Xbox ecosystem that is.

Probably another dream.

Hell, while I'm dreaming, perhaps uPlay and Origin can suddenly die off, and Epic can start supporting Linux directly? That would be nice. Yeah. That would be really nice.

What's that GOG? You're releasing Galaxy on Linux too? Welcome to the party, pal? C'mon in. The water's lovely.

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