Quoting: LeopardBy AAA i mean ; Doom 2016 , Wolfenstein 2 , Witcher 3 , Skyrim , Fallout 4 , Battlefield 1 , Overwatch etc.

Good list, with one problem: I'd only buy two of those titles if they were all available on Linux. That was my point about what everyone thinks "AAA" means. It's a pretty useless tag these days.

However, you've inspired me to create a new tag in my Steam library. Behold!

http://imgur.com/1uf45Ku [External Link]

Apologies for my stitching skills - I'm not very good with gimp. And I took the screenshot on my laptop, so I only have like two of them installed.

But not a bad list for a three year old platform, I reckon. And missing some big titles that don't appeal to me, like the latest Dirt Rally, F1 2016 and Civ VI. Amongst others, I'm sure. This is just my take on the list.

Being honest, there's only a small list of games I'd really like to see on Linux right now that isn't:

Dishonoured 2, Elite:Dangerous, Nier:Automata, and the two you mentioned above, Leopard, being Overwatch and Skyrim.

Hopefully by the end of 2017, we'll have an even bigger list to choose from, but I'm pretty spoiled for choice right now.

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Quoting: JanIntegration is key for Apple. That's why they insist on their own solutions -- it simply works for them.

Not really - more crucially, it works against the consumer's rights and their ability to stop using Apple's products. Which does indeed "work for them", but just not in the "isn't Apple clever by leveraging all these synergies" way that I suspect you intended that sentence to be taken.

Quoting: JanI just don't like this sentiment of the "evil" Apple corporation and their "cultish and blind" following. That's just crap.

Maybe you just haven't been around in IT long enough, but there's plenty of evidence of multiple despicable practices by both Microsoft and Apple that, in my opinion, fully qualifies them for the "evil" tag.

Quoting: JanWe as Linux gamers should be glad that there's a successful operating system similar to ours, which makes it easier for developers to take a risk and spend additional time and money for a Linux version.

Perhaps, but I doubt this is true. It's more likely, I think, that Apple's existence is now hurting Linux's chances at platform support. Maybe not at the beginning of the "revolution" four or five years ago, but now that Linux has a foothold on Steam, it's competing against Apple just as much as MS. Worse, Apple's decisions in the gaming space are going to further hurt the likelihood of Linux platform support, since they're not supporting Vulkan.

But enough Apple bashing. About a year ago, I made a conscience decision to try to define myself by what I love, rather than what I hate. I was doing too much MS and Apple-bashing and it's really not a good place to be. When a vendor approaches me to sell a product and his pitch bashes on his competition, I'm waaaaay less likely to view that vendor in a positive light.

So now, when someone asks me "why do you hate MS/Apple?", I'll answer by the question by telling them how much Ubuntu rocks and why. Use what you want, sure, but here's a better way. And it's easy! And free! And full of freedom!

I used to say "I don't use Linux because it's better, I use Linux because it's the right thing to do". No need to say that now. Now I can just say "I use Linux because it's better. In every way that matters to me".

I'll check back later, but for now, Tacoma is calling...

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Been really looking forward to this, especially since Event[0] seems dead in the water for a Linux port. I'll be buying this shortly!

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Quoting: LeopardConclusion is simple actually. If AAA games keeps coming without Linux support , Linux gaming won't go anywhere better.

I know what you're getting at, but the tricky part is "AAA". If you changed "AAA" to "quality" games, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly.

But "AAA" is such an ambiguous term. Is Ballistic Overkill AAA? I think so, but it's not even in the same league as Paladins in terms of player-base, let alone something truly gigantic like Overwatch. What about Insurgency? Or Albion Online? Do we still think Full Throttle is AAA? Does "AAA" time out, somehow?

So as long as some/many quality titles are available, it's an acceptable sacrifice (to me) that not all quality titles are available.

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Quoting: TrumpI dislike the devs of Ark and Rust. Both seem like assholes that do not consider Linux users even worth their time.

Well, I know where you're coming from, but of course, if they truly didn't consider Linux users worth their time, they wouldn't still be offering a Linux version, would they?

You only have to look at the Leaving Lindow developer to realise that we're lucky to have games like Ark and Rust at all!

This situation boils down to the harsh reality of trying to make money - their priority will always be their largest customer base. But yeah, I'd like a bit of consideration as a paying customer. Right now, it can feel pretty unfair at times.

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I've been having a fair bit of fun with this one, but Albion Online and Ballistic Overkill (and Full Throttle over the weekend) have been keeping me away from it.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Luke_Nukem

Quoting: Mountain ManIf that's the reason they've abandoned Linux then that seems rather petty.

Not even close to the level of pettiness shown by that vocal chunk that spewed forth a wall of toxicity towards those who were trying to help us out.

That's just the background noise you have to put up with when doing business.

Again, threats of violence are not "background noise". Can't believe so many people are trying to justify this.

Just imagine if you provided a physical service on the street - pretzels, shoe shine, whatever - and on the one hand, you have a group of people literally 10 feet away shouting that you should just fucking die because your service, in their opinion, is sub standard. Then on the other hand, a second group of people standing 5 feet away telling you to grow a thicker skin, just ignore those guys, pfff, just background noise.

Yeah, sure. This is one of the most depressing threads I've ever experienced on the internet. And, given Reddit, or the Steam Forums, that's really saying something.

I'm not justifying anything. I'm just trying to put things into perspective. A hostile post on an internet forum is nowhere close to a mob threatening physical violence from 10-feet away, so your analogy doesn't hold water.

Well, my point is that if you threaten my family from 10 feet away, or via the internet, I'm (personally) still going to do everything in my power to see you jailed. This isn't a question of perspective - I maintain that while my analogy might not hold water for you, and doesn't for many others, it should.

The internet would be a more pleasant place if people didn't think that an anonymous handle on a website hosted in a country they don't live in lets them act like utter fuckmuffins.

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Quoting: MaCroX95

Quoting: scaine

Quoting: MaCroX95

Quoting: scaine

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Luke_Nukem

Quoting: Mountain ManIf that's the reason they've abandoned Linux then that seems rather petty.

Not even close to the level of pettiness shown by that vocal chunk that spewed forth a wall of toxicity towards those who were trying to help us out.

That's just the background noise you have to put up with when doing business.

Again, threats of violence are not "background noise". Can't believe so many people are trying to justify this.

Just imagine if you provided a physical service on the street - pretzels, shoe shine, whatever - and on the one hand, you have a group of people literally 10 feet away shouting that you should just fucking die because your service, in their opinion, is sub standard. Then on the other hand, a second group of people standing 5 feet away telling you to grow a thicker skin, just ignore those guys, pfff, just background noise.

Yeah, sure. This is one of the most depressing threads I've ever experienced on the internet. And, given Reddit, or the Steam Forums, that's really saying something.

And who would ultimately be wrong? People who judge you for not doing your job well or not keeping your promise or people who defend you for no reason, only to look moral? I mean sure, we should behave like people and not make threats and justify barbaric behavior but the answer isn't all that simple... I've seen so many polite critiques on internet where they diss every part of some games and yet they do come out and in some cases sell very well... it's just that we're small market and that's why we got the game cancelled. Even if we were the nicest people in the world when tw2 came out, tw3 would still probably get cancelled when they saw that SteamOS isn't going anywhere.

And I'm NOT justifying the threats to jaycee and his coworkers...

You're over-complicating this. Critique all you want. When you threaten me or my family because of some fucked up justification that my work doesn't meet your standard, you've crossed a line.

You say that we should behave like people, not make threats... but then claim the answer isn't that simple? Wrong. It's very, very simple.

No sir :) I said that the behavior is barbaric and is not justified anyhow. I just said that eventhough the backlash was there they can't justify not porting the game for the whole community as if we were all responsible for the backlash. My point was just that we're small and nobody cares about us. We got tw2 because of the hype for SteamOS and tw3 was announced in that hype as well. Later when they've seen how it turned out they just cancelled it.

Ah, right. Sure, I misunderstood. Fully agree.

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Quoting: MaCroX95

Quoting: scaine

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Luke_Nukem

Quoting: Mountain ManIf that's the reason they've abandoned Linux then that seems rather petty.

Not even close to the level of pettiness shown by that vocal chunk that spewed forth a wall of toxicity towards those who were trying to help us out.

That's just the background noise you have to put up with when doing business.

Again, threats of violence are not "background noise". Can't believe so many people are trying to justify this.

Just imagine if you provided a physical service on the street - pretzels, shoe shine, whatever - and on the one hand, you have a group of people literally 10 feet away shouting that you should just fucking die because your service, in their opinion, is sub standard. Then on the other hand, a second group of people standing 5 feet away telling you to grow a thicker skin, just ignore those guys, pfff, just background noise.

Yeah, sure. This is one of the most depressing threads I've ever experienced on the internet. And, given Reddit, or the Steam Forums, that's really saying something.

And who would ultimately be wrong? People who judge you for not doing your job well or not keeping your promise or people who defend you for no reason, only to look moral? I mean sure, we should behave like people and not make threats and justify barbaric behavior but the answer isn't all that simple... I've seen so many polite critiques on internet where they diss every part of some games and yet they do come out and in some cases sell very well... it's just that we're small market and that's why we got the game cancelled. Even if we were the nicest people in the world when tw2 came out, tw3 would still probably get cancelled when they saw that SteamOS isn't going anywhere.

And I'm NOT justifying the threats to jaycee and his coworkers...

You're over-complicating this. Critique all you want. When you threaten me or my family because of some fucked up justification that my work doesn't meet your standard, you've crossed a line.

You say that we should behave like people, not make threats... but then claim the answer isn't that simple? Wrong. It's very, very simple.

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Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Luke_Nukem

Quoting: Mountain ManIf that's the reason they've abandoned Linux then that seems rather petty.

Not even close to the level of pettiness shown by that vocal chunk that spewed forth a wall of toxicity towards those who were trying to help us out.

That's just the background noise you have to put up with when doing business.

Again, threats of violence are not "background noise". Can't believe so many people are trying to justify this.

Just imagine if you provided a physical service on the street - pretzels, shoe shine, whatever - and on the one hand, you have a group of people literally 10 feet away shouting that you should just fucking die because your service, in their opinion, is sub standard. Then on the other hand, a second group of people standing 5 feet away telling you to grow a thicker skin, just ignore those guys, pfff, just background noise.

Yeah, sure. This is one of the most depressing threads I've ever experienced on the internet. And, given Reddit, or the Steam Forums, that's really saying something.

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