So uhhh, anyone bored?

If a game is on this list https://steamdb.info/tech/AntiCheat/EasyAntiCheat/ [External Link] but the same game is not on this list https://steamdb.info/tech/SDK/EpicOnlineServices/ [External Link] one can conclude it still uses the non-EOS EAC.

Who wants to make a script to XOR the lists? :woot:

Here's the opposite. Games that use both.

https://steamdb.info/instantsearch/?refinementList%5Btechnologies%5D%5B0%5D=AntiCheat.EasyAntiCheat&refinementList%5Btechnologies%5D%5B1%5D=SDK.EpicOnlineServices [External Link]

Note: It does not necessarily mean they use EOS EAC even if they do use EOS for other things. So it's more accurate to work out the negative scenario.

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Quoting: Guestthere are a couple of games on Stadia using Proton as well.

Small correction. No games on Stadia use Proton, but it is possible that some use dxvk/vkd3d native.

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Quoting: GuestIt's actually quite a bit more of market share than they are giving it credit for. If they support Proton/Wine, it allows anyone with Wine to play their game. This includes but isn't limited to, x86/ARM Linux, FreeBSD, x86 OSX, ARM OSX, and so on.

And Amazon will soon be using Proton on their streaming service too.

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Quoting: EhvisI had no idea about the two EAC versions though. So thanks to these devs for clarifying that. And I'm very curious if something more is going to be done with this.

So for the one version of EAC it literally is just an SDK update and then a "few clicks", but nobody seems to have bothered to mention that there's an entirely other version of EAC that is used by a most current games that is completely unsupported. I do suspect that EAC will eventually be deprecating the non-EOS version though as keeping two codebases up to date seems like an unnecessary waste of resources.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleAlthough suddenly requiring their entire base to authenticate via Epic is not something I would want for my users. They should insist Epic fix this or not do it at all.

EAC with EOS that is the new version talked in this article doesn't require any login at all for the users.

So the devs here may be talking out their butts? Either way, we should probably not expect too many older games that use EAC to switch over.

I also still do not see what the point is of sticking to older anticheat solutions because surely that's the one thing you need to be up to date.

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Yeah, this very much sounds like it's just scummy behaviour by Epic.

If I were them I would not bother doing the work to integrate a completely different version of EAC. Sounds like they might as well just drop EAC and switch to a different solution like BattlEye.

for an honestly tiny market share that was (and would remain) unsupported from the get go

Do they not realize that this is for the Steam Deck? Thinking of it simply as "Linux" is kicking themselves in the balls. Although suddenly requiring their entire base to authenticate via Epic is not something I would want for my users. They should insist Epic fix this or not do it at all.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandle

Quoting: damarrinIt's Kudu or Kudo?

Kudu. It's a type of antelope.

Kudu means "should be" in Javanese.

In this case it's definitely the buck because System76 have a habit of naming things after African animals. See also Meerkat and Pangolin.

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This application uses the phrase "our competition". This is not strictly wrong, there's always some competing for market share. But it also points to a misguided attitude about Linux/open source. No matter what your distro/tech is, we're all pulling the same cart. It's an ecosystem to which all must contribute and nurture.

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Quoting: damarrinIt's Kudu or Kudo?

Kudu. It's a type of antelope.

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Quoting: elmapulhow many of those are online games that work thanks to valve anti cheat aproach?

So far, 1. Some of those have announced they will be switching on anticheat for Proton, but even then it's only a tiny few.

EDIT: there is 1, not 0

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