Quoting: TuxeeSince I've been playing War Thunder in its native version for many years: Are there any benefits running the Proton version? (Even with all details cranked up to the max I constantly hover around 150 to 200fps on 2560x1600.)

My knowledge is a few months old and not 100% certain even then, but:
Native:
- Multiplayer
Lacking from native, maybe works in Proton:
- VR
- Raytracing (added to native by now)

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I, too, prefer attempts towards integrity, accountability and sources. If we want to be fair, we have to tolerate differing opinions. If I wanted to be in an echo chamber I would turn to an AI chatbot instead.

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Quoting: GuestDoesn't really need to be brought up to "current standards" whatever that means, but there are a few QoL things that could be fixed up with a remake, especially with the excursions or whatever they're called. I've had buildings softlock more times than I care for.

I feel kinda the opposite: Yes QoL update would be valuable already. But on the other hand, if the authors can give the experience beloved by me and you to a larger fraction of the next generation, I'm all for it. Just as we didn't choose to grow up amidst cars and credit cards, current average younglings didn't choose Tiktok and Fortnite as much as they were manipulated into it. Their brains will need different ramps (training wheels) to get to TWoM than we did.

But ofc, overdoing with the mass appeal is a risk for sure (with a less competent studio).

Regarding QoL, if it is a big enough issue (and the game is popular enough), there will be community patches or even open-source game-code remakes.

I'm really curious how the landscape of the latter will evolve with vibe-coding. Since the barrier is way lower to handling everything around LLM prompts like "hey, the output was wrong in this way, given these asset files".

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I recently tried it out on a whim and enjoyed it so much that our first run was 411 h long! It'll be a while before we have another go though, might try a start in a different climate.

Cause we're unemployed with dwindling savings, we used the old-fashioned self-imposed trial. But now I will spend what little I have to pay the authors + supporter add-on.

For anyone new to it - the mod support is great and adds so much!

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I'll chime in with others here to "diagnose" some of us with some issue 😀:

I feel as if many of us here are quite upset and stressed. Likely about this particular topic as well as many other worrying changes going on in our shared and personal worlds. I'd be happy if more us can find it in themselves to trust that it is quite unlikely for any of us to be intentionally shilling, trolling or otherwise furthering some malicious agenda. Most peoples' agenda is quite simply to express their perspective and feelings. So please let's not call each other idiots. "Ignorant/uninformed/shortsighted on the subject" is welcome 😌. The further our culture on GoL moves on the spectrum of interpersonal attacks (and such toxicity), the less I want to partake in these discussions. I need not be here, but be mindful of what you select for in an ecosystem.

(My actual personal political views on this topic are most similar to HyperRealisticRock and Purple Library Guy - wild west time is over; not doing anything is a costly choice; doing anything new means likely mistakes; we can't have our cake and eat it too. On the other hand, more discussion on *how* to implement any changes is imperative - I just don't subscribe to "no change".)

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: mr-victoryAND TOUCHSCREEN TOO??

Meh. This is one of those features that, I know you have to have it nowadays, but I'd pay a bit extra not to. I never use it deliberately, but I do sometimes use it accidentally, which is a pain, and it means I need to think twice before I flick a piece of lint off the screen, and it's an invitation to get my screen all fingermarky. Basically, to me touchscreens are mostly there to create an extra point of failure, a reason for things to randomly fuck up because I touched my screen.

Insightful to see that so many feel the same way (the likes on your comment). I added a script to toggle my touch screen (because I started using touch before it was well supported on DE-s). So I only ever have it turned on when I actually use it (so my friends don't tap anything when trying to point at something). You can also configure your OS to always boot with the touch screen off.

I myself enjoy having a touch screen and was one of the many pleading Framework to give us one (which they did with FW12, albeit in a lower end price point, which is reasonable for the main use cases). I use my laptop everywhere around the house. And I replaced a laptop's keyboard 3 times due to stray, really-unlikely droplets from really far away in the kitchen or bathroom 🥲. I also live in a country where most people can't reasonably justify buying a decent laptop for work AND a tablet (for content while doing something brain-dead around the house). And I don't enjoy using a phone for content around the house since it doesn't stay upright, has a tiny screen, tiny input, and I can't use a keyboard even when I want to.

In any case, I'm glad FW is giving us both the option to pick touch or non-touch screen.

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Quoting: Stella

Quoting: neolith

Quoting: ScottCarammellon one hand, I love Framework and I REALLY want to get one of their laptops when I can afford to.

on the other hand. $1200. base price without RAM or storage. they're not exactly making it easy

My thoughts exactly... They produce nice hardware, but that laptop with the RAM and SSD I need easily puts it higher than what I payed for my computer. That's just not gonna happen, I cannot mindlessly throw away that kind of money.

yea.. struggling to see the point if you can get better desktop hardware, even with dGPU, for much lower price

Hasn't this always been the case for every laptop that ever existed? That you get better and more stuff for the same price minus the portability, battery (maybe also webcam, mic, keyboard, trackpad, speakers)

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Nice. I'm still dreaming about using different desktop backgrounds for each virtual desktop (which I was reminded of when hearing about this virtual desktop update).

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Quoting: Termy

Quoting: Purple Library GuyNever get rid of an obsolete thing until you have the thing you wanted to replace it with.

Yeah, generally not a bad idea - though i saw (or rather see) the prices for the Index dropping once the Frame is released. And as VR isn't exactly essential, i thought i can do without it for a few months rather than not getting much anymore when selling the Index. And i'm trying to lessen my clutter anyway 😆

I want to do the same with my Index but: I have no experience selling online, don't know how to price it (since it has a few defects), and struggle with work capability in general.

Oh and in my case, I might not get the Frame asap, since I'm doing worse economically than when I got my Index - so I might do many months or a few years without VR.

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Quoting: GerarderloperIs this Android Driver meant as a alternative to Valves FEX layer?

Quoting: GuestNo, it's meant for getting Windows games to run on Android. It uses FEX for ARM compatibility.

So do I understand correctly that:
- before: both games (x86) and Wine (x86) have to be run inside FEX
- when this work is finished: Wine (arm) itself can run outside FEX (and Wine would use FEX still for the x86 games)

And this would probably give greater stability and performance.

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