I really don't get why they don't just make proton support official if it already runs perfectly...valve even covers the support, so the only thing they have to do is make sure patches don't break proton and collect my money...

Really enjoyed it on the free weekend and would instantly buy it - but not if it can stop working anytime due to not being offical...

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Quoting: LinuxwarperI think Epic holding Valve back would be bad pr for them. They are already disliked for their anti consumer practices. If they work against Valve they will, hopefully, get much more backlash from PC community.
Valve could, and rightfully so, rub salt into wound that is Epic Store by pointing out how the company has ported Fortnite for so many platforms but neglected Linux, and now they are even stopping progress to make games available for the platform.
It would be disgusting if that actually happens.

it's not like EPIC cared to much about PR in the past weeks/months ;)
But let's hope their neglect of linux is just shortsighted and lazy instead of ill-minded

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Quoting: TermyWith this Star Citizen can be installed and played with vanilla wine and has really decent FPS with DXVK - who had thought something like that would happen just a few years ago ^^

I can finally play it!? Woohoo!

It was playable for a while, but in the beginning you had to copy over a installation from windows because the installer didn't work with wine, then there was a regression in 3.20 (so installting on >3.20, playing with <3.20 for the FPS), but now all came together thanks to the work of some really smart people :D
You should check the "Linux User Group" Org, if you're in the verse ;)

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With this Star Citizen can be installed and played with vanilla wine and has really decent FPS with DXVK - who had thought something like that would happen just a few years ago ^^

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I'm kind of baffled that Epic is allowing collaboration with Valve ^^
Glad to hear this though :D

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Quoting: EhvisThat's simply not possible. Even VMs running a legitimate copy of Windows can be detected. There is software on Windows that simply refuses to run in a VM.

As far as i know that is mainly down to Hardware-IDs.
I know of a few examples that check for the CPU-ID and block accordingly. If you "fake" your KVM to a "real" CPU-ID it works flawlessly.

For the rest, i completely agree with you. It is a real shame that some devs won't even go through the miniscule effort to make sure their DRM/AntiCheat won't block wine/proton after it is reported to them. Devs with this attitude don't deserve our money for sure.

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Quoting: EhvisStill it's *very* gimicky, something I expect from less serious shops. But maybe "loyalty" programs such as this is the new norm

sure, it's gimicky, but the gimicks are a big part of the "real" steam-sales for me, i quite liked them in the past ^^
And it still sometimes shows that valve don't take themselfs too seriously still :)

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Quoting: WendigoAnd this is exactly the reason why I would never buy a Windows game even if it has platinum status for Proton.
There is just no guarantee that the game will still work in a few weeks / months / years and if you get issues in the future you are left in the rain since the game was never made to be run on Linux.

Was about to write the exact same.
I'm really thankfull for proton for playing old games or games that i got in a bundle (and that the devs see it as a linux-"sale"), but i won't buy a not officially supported game for more than a few bucks...

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I really liked Epic...in the past.
They really do try hard to make themselfs hated...

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Quoting: MayeulCWhat would be interesting for them is to take a (slightly) lesser cut if the game is cross-platform. Everyone would be happy about this, I think, especially bean counters :)

now that is one of the best ideas i've heard in a while to boost Linux-acceptance among the devs...too bad valve is not looking into this comments xD

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