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Quoting: peta77Well... difficult one... when is it finished? ... is a multimedia system / radio essential to a car? On the other hand, would you buy one without or one where you get it 2 years afterwards?
So a complete product is not one that only gets the basics right.. And I love to see that there's people / companies out there that still care for that and don't do a release that's rather some kind of public beta.

But that is exactly what they did by releasing it under early access and treating it like a normal release, with typical post release additions and all that. The only ones that get shafted here are the original backers that paid the full price for the final release version that gets postponed all the time while they add DLC like features and do sales promotions to attract additional new customers.

If anything this is a typical case of what not to do if you care about releasing a finished game.

Do you know if the game is still "unfinished" in any playability sort of sense? How much does it matter what they call it? If it's more "finished" than many games given full release, is it a problem that they prefer to call it "early access" still?

Well, if they still call it "early access" I definitely have a problem with it... Way too much bad experience with such stuff so that I stopped buying it except a very few titles / companies of which I know they will finish the job, i.e.Egosoft-X-Series; even their releases can be considered early access, but they provide long term support, even after finishing the game (2 or 3 years after release)..

Regarding DLCs: I always have very weird thoughts when I see a game just being released and there's already DLCs for it.... see Assassin's Creed Valhalla.... it's just released and it already has DLCs and stuff ?!!?!??!!???? like they expect to get 140€ (yes, currently 49 on sale) for the full (complete edition) game???? Things are getting extremely out of control lately... sadly there's way too much people willing to join that crappy game anyway, so no hope that anything will change in the near future...

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Quoting: GuestI mostly think it's just Nvidia's crap implementation of RTX into Portal that is causing these issues.

I doubt that. Raytracing compared to rasterizing (what all GPUs currently do in DirectX, OpenGL and Vulkan) is a computationally extremely very heavy task. You can have a look at rendering times in Lightwave, 3D Studio MAX, PovRay, etc. to get a notion of how intense that task is to create really good images. RTX - as nvidia calls it - is just a first step to get that into GPUs and gaming. The main problem is: GPUs are vector processors, so they expect to execute computation in a linear / sequential manner, while in ray tracing you jump around data / code, which is the worst thing to provide as a task to vector processors. It's the ultimate killing factor for them. So to have "usable" ray tracing on GPUs requires a general redesign of the architecture and RTX is only the beginning, some kind of "early access" or beta, well rather alpha. Expect to see usable versions of it in... well.. about 10 years???

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Quoting: Julius

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Quoting: JuliusHow about finally releasing the game? I am an original Kickstarter funder and still haven't played any of it as they keep milking the early access BS and add various gimmicks that normally would be in post release patches I think.

I prefer finished games... not like the X-series where you already know it actually becomes playable at v3.0 or higher...

Sure, but the latest additions seem to be stuff you can do after finishing the game, which you know... is not essential to playing a finished game.

Well... difficult one... when is it finished? ... is a multimedia system / radio essential to a car? On the other hand, would you buy one without or one where you get it 2 years afterwards?
So a complete product is not one that only gets the basics right.. And I love to see that there's people / companies out there that still care for that and don't do a release that's rather some kind of public beta.

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Quoting: GuestI can't even get the game to run for more than two minutes on my Windows PC. Fully updated drivers and everything. I've beaten the game so many times now that I just don't really care to deal with it.

So it's time to finally dump your Windows (haven't used mine in a year or so). I only had stability problems on Linux running it in windowed mode at reduced resolution. And that still meant at least 5 (or rather 10) minutes of playtime.

Need another motivation? Remember this: only burglars / thiefs use windows.

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Tried with 2K: doesn't work for me in fullscreen.. but with windowed mode i got a stable 35fps... until it deadlocked and crashed... and took the steam client with it...

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Manjaro already has the required driver, so I did a short test @ 4K..
Well, it... works... Framerate is at 12-14 most of the time, with some dips down to 8fps, especially when carrying cubes and near portals, and some highs at 17fps (in the elevator, so not that relevant)..
so, at least not worse than quake-rtx, but not really playable either.. wouldn't spent an hour or two with it with that performance...
maybe runs better and is playable at lower resolutions...

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Quoting: JuliusHow about finally releasing the game? I am an original Kickstarter funder and still haven't played any of it as they keep milking the early access BS and add various gimmicks that normally would be in post release patches I think.

I prefer finished games... not like the X-series where you already know it actually becomes playable at v3.0 or higher...

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FYI:
Süßkartoffel = sweet potatoe
mashed potatoes = Kartoffelpüree / Stampfkartoffeln

Why they do it: germany tries to become a bigger player again regarding modern technologies: software, IT-hardware, etc. ... so they governments supports several businesses in that area, not only gaming, to attract high skilled professionals and companies to invest in germany..
So it's about spending some money to get more in the future and also to create attractive jobs, so the IT specialists we have here don't leave the country because they can't find some proper occupation here...

But that's nothing unusual... Most countries have funds to support their economy in one way or the other.. It just is rarely noticed in most cases...

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Quoting: Deleted_UserHowever: I'm aware that this distro is almost never mentioned, so i guess there is a very little userbase. Can anyone explain to me how they manage to be #1 on distrowatch.com? (which is how i became aware of them)

Simple: distrowatch doesn't count usage, downloads, etc. Just how many page views were there. So people seem to be interested. That's the only thing distrowatch can tell you. You could be number one for a whole year there without having any active users!

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Quoting: MiZoGHow many Linux-savvy content creators tried hard last year to convince us that Fedora is "THE default Linux desktop"?
Fedora is what it is. Influential, pioneering, example-setting but not meant for the "desktop user".

Quoting: prosoorAlthough I would say Fedora is more technically progressive than Ubuntu and is a kernel pool for Red Hat Enterprise Linux which is a a good, but paid Linux.

Yep, it's a testing ground using newest technology and sometimes doing questionable modifications... I still remember when some projects refrained to build when using a RedHat-"optimized" gcc (before the name changed from RedHat to Fedora and there was no RedHat Enterprise Linux) because they knew it definitely would break the application.

RHEL though is a good distribution, well supported and most of the time very stable, but almost unusable for gaming.

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