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Quoting: subSometimes, I really want to 'like' an article.
Liam? :)

I like that suggestion.

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Well you are hitting one of the many issues that surrounds the games industry right now: There is Zero quality control. Steam have allowed almost anyone to submit a game and it's not like you have to pass a test or anything to make a game.

Not saying that's a good idea, it's awful to constrain by education.

There are plenty of games that don't even match up with their descriptions and so basically we have this problem where nobody adheres to standards such as having a working game so your problem is no less valid but I believe the real reason is that the games industry as a whole has very little standards.

For me I have the problem where most game devs don't use driver independant extensions for their OpenGL. They will happily use NVidia or AMD only extensions without a thought for other users.

I would like the ability to have my saves tracked on steam though so I could choose myself where they get saved and backing them up easily. Hell, we need a standard save file format so that I can put them in a database or something.

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Although that article makes it pretty obvious, I find that having 150fps on portal suits me just fine. And until games become as demanding as Unigene Heaven, I can live with games getting me 80fps. FPS is just a number, like resolution.

Obviously there is a certain point where it's important to have good fps but the number is experiential in importance (the more FPS you have, the less it matters). And by and large 60fps and beyond is fine, and 30fps and beyond is generally good enough depending on the game.

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That last particular one is very useful to me in the coming weeks.

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On Linux, the catalyst install is worse than the other alternative. It ranges from distros holding back xorg packages to keep the hobbling driver supported to actually having to do it yourself and run the .run files yourself.

A open source driver will never have this issue.

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Quoting: smilingsamHowdy. Not sure who produced the graph in the story, but I find it 100% useless without a comparison to the Catalyst drivers. It's like saying the F1 car you bought with the Yugo motor keeps getting faster but you have no idea how fast it COULD be.

Please consider adding a comparison to the closed-source Catalyst drivers in the future.

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I'll have to disagree. The focus is on Mesa improvements, not tracking Mesa to Catalyst. It's about what games actually run, and how far you can go with FOSS drivers - something that's more important to many, many people than raw performance compared to blobs.
I'd also point out that you've no idea how fast the Catalyst drivers could be either.

Very much that last part. You will struggle to find a person that really thinks Catalyst makes effective use of the hardware available; so you're comparing a unknown to an unknown which is all relative.

I don't track fglrx changes across this myself because as mirv stated perfectly, it's not about that at all for me and many users. There are other sites which can tell you that point of view.

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Quoting: sevAny improvement is good news, but I'm not convinced that AMD is in it to win it just yet. I have been bitten by them too often to trust them so soon.

I wouldn't ask you to reconsider until they start 100% officially supporting mesa because right now it's just lucky we have a viable fallback from an awesome team.

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Quoting: Xpanderall in all .. old source engine games run pretty good... would be interesting to see Serious Sam 3, Natural Selection and Metro LL in the mix as well

I'm very tempted to try that. See how it goes for mesa 10.4/11

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I approve of the use of Jim Sterling in this, he pretty much represents my views on the whole subject :)

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