Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: Eikehttps://twitter.com/feralgames/status/1292827642526408706

Also immediately clear that the Linux release has been delayed. If not cancelled.

In this case, it makes sense, though.

Right now, the game is only available on EGS, which doesn't support Linux.
Wouldn't make sense for any publisher to pay Feral to do a Linux port when it can't be sold anywhere (except maybe on Feral's own store, but why would publishers care about that).

Just wait until it comes out on Steam, chances are that then there will be a Linux version.

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Definitely looks interesting.

But pretty much all recent RTS titles that tried to focus on the apparently very small competitive PvP crowd simply failed to gain any traction.
You'd have to give competitive players a reason to spend significant amounts of time on a new game instead of SC2 or WC3 and that includes all the features those have when it comes to online communities, matchmaking, etc. ...
Pretty much an impossible market to break into, I think.

Games like Spellforce, which focus on the single player content (while also allowing MP and Co-Op), generally fare a lot better.

Then again, this one looks very different from the classic RTS base builders, which might enable it to target a different crowd.
Or it might mean that there is no target audience. Who knows.
There's definitely some hope here that their special campaign structure might allow them to speak to both SP players and MP ones at the same time.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Mac and Linux versions accounted for 4.2% and 2.7% of sales, respectively.

That's... actually quite alright.

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Quoting: SalvatosDammit devs, turn off your Discord notifications when you’re recording XD

This is so crazy to me, why would anyone not have their Discord notifications turned off permanently?
As soon as you are on pretty much ANY server, you'll just get constant ding-ding-ding noises. Doesn't allow any kind of activity without constantly being interrupted.

I mean, hey, at least it's not the ICQ-Oh-Oh!.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: EagleDeltaI believe there is a mod available that actually takes care of that. The game is already pretty fun in vanilla, but once you get used to it and start playing with the modes (like VRO), it becomes a whole other thing.

If there is such a mod, I wasn't able to find it.
Just loads of threads of people asking for such a mod, people saying such a mod cannot be done, or people begging for an option to turn FF off entirely - which would make sense, honestly. Only the player would be able to abuse it and the player can already exploit and cheat like there's no tomorrow, so that is not a logical reason not to give people that option.

Reactive Factions for getting them to react to how you interact with their enemies: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1999425584 [External Link]
Apologize for attack - https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/381 [External Link]

Good mods, but especially the second one seem very finicky, doesn't it.
From what I get from the description, you'd basically spend most of the time in a prolonged battle constantly apologizing to your allies, which, uh... well, that doesn't sound like much fun, tbh.
It also doesn't solve the problem, it just gives you a somewhat better way to react to the problem. A real solution would be to simply disable friendly fire or make the AI react to it in a way that isn't just braindead "U SHOT ME! U BAD!".

Quoting: Alm888I am not beko, but… Why would one use anything other than "the smallest ship"? :grin:

Anything other than a modded-out Chimera with Split Mk4 Combat Engines is soooo slow (technically, the Pegasus and T scouts are faster, but one can not pilot T and Pegasus is almost useless as a fighter).

I used mods to make larger ships MUCH faster and actually usable.
That was at least something there was actually a mod for.

Also, it might sound strange to you, but different people might enjoy different aspects of a game... or they would, were they implemented better.

Quoting: Alm888But if you insist on being "large and in charge", there are turret control settings. Just set them to "Attack My Current Enemy" ant they shall be quiet and behaving if you do not actually select the "enemy" station in question.

Maybe, just maybe, do not assume that the person you are talking to doesn't have the slightest clue what they are talking about or what they are doing.
I played the game for a very long time (it does take a while to get a large armada together, as you might know), and I know very well how to set up turrets, thank you very much.
You can set your turrets to whatever you want, it doesn't matter when a large battle with many ships is going on.
Allies WILL get hit by you or yours, no matter what you do.

Though maybe that patch I cited did fix at least the turret being seen as no-accident-fire. Not sure.
it was definitely an issue when I played.

Quoting: Alm888Besides, if you are that close to an NPC station while fighting enemies, you should rethink your piloting strategy: close proximity to a station strips you of maneuverability: no dashes, no tactical repositioning, no engine-sniping, just plain-old board-to-board line battle. These board-to-board battles are meant for "Linear Ships" (suited for "Line of Battle" [External Link] tactics ) i. e. "Battleships". And we know the only battleships in the game are Xenon ones. :wink:

None of that is even related to the problems we're discussing.

Quoting: bekoFun aside. Your itch has been scratched and I stand my point: Your positioning sucks. You play that long already? Well, mayhap you're doing it wrong for a long time then. Did you ever read any Sci-Fi featuring space battles? I'm delighted the way this is implemented. You pay for errors - ESPECIALLY with huge ships.

My positioning doesn't matter. As soon as you fight in a large battle with many ships, turrets, etc. with an ally and enemies, you (or some of your ships) WILL accidentally hit allies.
This is simply not avoidable, not even in theory. Maybe try and actually do it before you comment on things you obviously know nothing about.

There are no errors to pay for if no errors were made. Sending your fleet of ships to go and help out the ally while you stay in some distance with your carrier and pick larger targets should NOT lead to you suddenly being at war with your ally. Period.
It's not like I just went into the middle of it, guns blazing, firing in all directions like some space berserker on a battleship - that does sound fun, but it just takes way too long to rebuild all those ships if you get too reckless.
I mean, sure, if you know the AI reacts to FF in such a bonkers way, you could say it was my error to even help an ally at all. In fact, that was one advice I received upon initially reporting that "slightly" overtuned FF reaction - aka "Yeah, that's a known problem, just don't fight if there are friends around". lol, what an advice.

Well, I certainly learned from my "mistake" and uninstalled, hoping that a year from then or so, I might give it another go.
I'll also not start with a meat factory, there's no money in that.

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Quoting: beko

Quoting: TheSHEEEPOnly 2-3 years remaining until playability...

I assume they still haven't fixed the bug/idiotic design that shots which hit your allies turn them hostile towards you so that whenever you try to aid an ally you actually end up at war with them.

Oh my…

* That's only temporary - just leave for a while

It isn't.
The first few shots turn friends hostile - THAT is temporary, similar to hacking stations.
However, now that the friends are hostile, your turrets and other ships start actively AIMING AT THEM ('cause they are hostiles, right? herpderpdep :/ ) - and after just a few seconds, you/your armada will have shot down a bunch of small craft of your former allies.
The penalty for that is NOT temporary, believe me...

And even if it was temporary - what kind of insane solution is that?
"Just leave for a while!" - Oh, sure, just don't play the game for a while the way you want to due to inane design choices or bugs...
Also... "Oh, sure, I'll just tell my armada to go back home, while the Xenon eat my allies alive, because my allies will think I'm their enemy for a month now."

Quoting: beko* Watch Your Fire!

Did you actually play the game?
In something larger than the smallest ship?
In a large battle with many allies and enemies?
When you have more turrets on your hull than toes on your feet and five times as many drones & small ships, then some of them WILL hit allies in the thick of battle, it is entirely unavoidable. Which makes the idea of friends/allies turning hostile if some of projectiles hit them so absolutely idiotic.
And the fix would be so simple: ignore incoming fire for FF calculations if the original target was not you.

Quoting: beko* Does iirc not apply for OOS fights (no friendly fire computation)

That's true.
But since my entire point for playing was building large armadas and leading them into battle, that's not really helping much.
The economic simulation is nice and all, but excel just isn't something that yields much fun for me.
I was quite happy just setting my traders/etc. into automatic mode and let them do their thing while I fight or explore somewhere.

But honestly, that wasn't my only gripe with X4. Not by far.
It was just the straw breaking the camel's back.
And almost all issues I had a gripe with would be super easy to fix, but from what I gather have all been around pretty much since launch.

There was this in some patch notes after I stopped playing:
Fixed accidental friendly fire from turrets on player ship being treated as intentional.

But, frankly, I was so disappointed by the game that it will probably be years before I give it another shot.

Quoting: EagleDeltaI believe there is a mod available that actually takes care of that. The game is already pretty fun in vanilla, but once you get used to it and start playing with the modes (like VRO), it becomes a whole other thing.

If there is such a mod, I wasn't able to find it.
Just loads of threads of people asking for such a mod, people saying such a mod cannot be done, or people begging for an option to turn FF off entirely - which would make sense, honestly. Only the player would be able to abuse it and the player can already exploit and cheat like there's no tomorrow, so that is not a logical reason not to give people that option.

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Only 2-3 years remaining until playability...

I assume they still haven't fixed the bug/idiotic design that shots which hit your allies turn them hostile towards you so that whenever you try to aid an ally you actually end up at war with them.

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Quoting: ssj17vegetaDocumentation support in the editor was a weak point, which I'm glad is being addressed.

Performance monitors and profilers are crucial for any serious project, too ;)

Absolutely.
Especially for modding support for games (which is relatively easy to achieve with Godot in contrast to Unity or Unreal), having some nice auto-completion and better editor support for custom code is invaluable.

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StarFox, what a blast from the past.

I remember playing the hell out of that game.
And then buying all the magazines that had anything about it to find all the little secrets and secret paths to get to the "true" boss.

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Quoting: Thrash_Metal_Computers

Quoting: dpanter"AAA" game companies have been whining about how games are too cheap and should cost 70$ (or more), while they are still gouging their customers with ever increasingly pervasive monetization.

The VCS is (potentially) launching around the same time as the next Playstation and Xbox, with less than 10% of the horsepower and having practically nothing in way of games. Offering "the creative work of small studios and independent developers" isn't how you sell consoles. It might have Netflix and such things, but again, nothing new.

I have no clue who they are targeting with the VCS.
It's not mobile gamers. Can't be PC gamers as they'll simply snort at this weak thing. Can't be current console owners as the VCS offers nothing new. Can't be prospective console buyers as the Switch is far superior in every aspect, plus portable, and the current MS/Sony consoles are even more superior again, not to mention the upcoming systems. It's not the HTPC crowd as even a Raspberry PI is vastly superior in every way. Emulation? Again, Rpi. :dizzy:

With the pandemic putting severe strain on most peoples finances worldwide, it's completely unreasonable to expect the VCS being anything other than a gigantic disaster. If you can afford a new console, why would anyone consider a VCS? I can't name a single reason.

I do want it to succeed... but it's not a realistic expectation. Even for hardcore Linux fans, it's an extremely tough sell. It has to cost so much less than the competition for it to even register as a viable alternative. 280$ for the most basic option without controllers? It's at least 100$ too much.

VCS, tragically dead even before launch. :cry:

Basically exactly what I have to say. Just to add, after reading about the lawsuit and how poorly the company is run, I personally would never want to support them with my money.

Same here, this just really seems to be a completely mismanaged project from everything that came to the surface so far.
400$ for something that isn't even close to anything a console can do at that price point is an extremely tough sell.

Nothing wrong with a retro console, but again, for 400$. What.

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