Sounds like some rather good content.
And also not too expensive, which is somewhat rare these days for DLCs...

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I wish they'd also sell this on itch. Oh, well.
More for the wishlist!

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Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: TheSHEEEPDo you have any reason for your attitude or is this just the usual "capitalism bad!" rhetoric with no logic behind it whatsoever?

Same question for you, with your attitude, so do you think capitalism is good?

I'm neutral on the issue, really.
If I can make it work in my favor (or rather, to fulfill my goals & needs), it's good enough for me.
I see it as a tool, like I don't see either democracy or authoritarian or any other government form as good or bad.

Quoting: CyrilBut with your first description, you called it "common sense" and I really disagree with this, for me it's just a reaction of a system established, here the capitalism.

I see. Well, it might be both.
It is definitely common sense, as acting against what is logical in the system you live in would just be... well, whatever is the opposite of common sense.
But I can see how it might not be common sense in every system outside of capitalism.

Anyway, totally off topic, yeah.

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Quoting: tuubiJust a tip: "Are you as stupid as everyone else who thinks that way?" isn't the invitation to civil discourse you think it is.

Not what I said. But very interesting how you interpreted it.
And as I stated elsewhere, I really don't care about replies to me being "civil", I care more about having an honest discussion.
Nobody has to be extra nice and friendly towards me, I really don't give a damn about that. It's substance over form for me.

Quoting: tuubiYou're just itching for a fight, aren't you? :D

We live in interesting times, when asking someone to provide further reasoning for an "I just hate X" statement is considered asking for a fight.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: TheSHEEEPDo you have any reason for your attitude or is this just the usual "capitalism bad!" rhetoric with no logic behind it whatsoever?

It would hardly be logical of him to waste his time replying to someone so explicitly dismissive of his views.

Ohhh, I touched a sore spot there, it seems.

I am explicitly dismissive of attitudes without reason behind them, for sure.
And I asked if that was the case for him or if he maybe wanted to add some argument to his statement. Because "I just hate X" isn't much to go on, really. We aren't talking about someone not liking broccoli here.

It's called a discussion, in which further explanations are sometimes required and requested.
Are you new to this?

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Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: TheSHEEEPWhy?
When I give someone money, agreeing to certain conditions, and then it becomes obvious that those conditions will not be met - and it seems increasingly unlikely that further investments would see any return... Well, then I just withdraw and cut my losses.
That's just common sense capitalism, which really could be a bit more common amongst some game developers.

Would you let yourself be screwed over?
This has nothing to do with demanding too much or "faster = better".

Fixed. We can't really argue about that since we only (?) know this model in game industry and we don't know about what their agreement exactly was.
I just hate that model/system, so asking me this question is a nonsense.

Do you have any reason for your attitude or is this just the usual "capitalism bad!" rhetoric with no logic behind it whatsoever?

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Quoting: CyrilI particularly hate the issue about the publisher, like "faster = better"... this has to stop (but yeah it's capitalism isn't it?).

Why?
When I give someone money, agreeing to certain conditions, and then it becomes obvious that those conditions will not be met - and it seems increasingly unlikely that further investments would see any return... Well, then I just withdraw and cut my losses.
That's just common sense, which really could be a bit more common amongst some game developers.

Would you let yourself be screwed over?
This has nothing to do with demanding too much or "faster = better".

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... you are aware that key can be changed in the settings? First thing I always do...

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Quoting: NanobangI'd be surprised if this game got onto any OS. Ever.

It is being sold on Steam, so...

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Really one of the reasons that when I develop a game, I won't go for crowdfunding. At least not for basic funding.
You'll just end up with responsibilities you might not be able to fulfill if things go south.

If you only put your own money in, at least you won't be wasting other people's money in the case of failure.

Quoting: Whitewolfe80Well I had not heard of this game and maybe its just me but this game doesnt seem it should of taken longer that 2 years to make as it doesnt look that complex from a design point of view. So am guessing four years was taking the piss judging by the publisher dropping them. That is the problem with inde projects if the main dev has poor health there is no plan B and invetitably game funding goes on funding care to get back to work.

While a person health is ultimately way more important that a project,Project management is something indie studios either need to invest in or hire someone what will kick ass if its needed to get the project on track. The mark of sucessful indie team is delivering on time and ideally under budget.

Quite true.
Four years does seem off, even for a very small team.

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