Just bought the game on itch.io, thanks for making it!

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Quoting: jensIf you look at the bare fact of releasing this documents and forget all history,

Why should we forget all history? Nvidia caused this mess, refused to fix it, and now provides documentation that still doesn't help with it and refuses to answer the direct question about fixing it as well. Should we now cheer? If Nvidia wants community to react positively, they should stop acting as jerks.

This whole problem isn't really dependent on their support of enterprise market, extensions and the blob. I.e. nothing should stop them from keeping their blob, without blocking Nouveau from working. Except, that would create an option for users to use Nouveau instead of the blob. So they are using firmware control as a market manipulation tool. I don't see any excuse for that. It's the same nasty lock-in like methodology, like many others they use (CUDA and so on).

Giving them a pass on this behavior only encourages it.

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I consider anti-competitive behavior of that sort to be a jerk behavior, so I see no point in holding back from calling it that way. Whether it's a fault of specific Nvidia employees or some collective decision making there, isn't really that relevant. The company as a whole represents that stance, and can be criticized for that.

Just to be clear, it's not the fault of those who use Nvidia, that Nvidia does this kind of stuff. It's Nvidia's fault.

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Quoting: jensI really don't get why there is so much profound hate against NVidia and the need to express that to users that are happy with their Nvidia cards and how you would use them on Linux..

@shmerl, you are an AMD owner, why not just be happy with you very valid choice and play a good game? Why the need to dominate this topic here

It's not about users being happy with their cards (nothing wrong with that). It's about users coming from Windows approach backround and not understanding Linux one, trying to justify what Nvidia does wrong (because they are used to such approach and don't know what's wrong with it). That's not something we should silently accept.

That quote from Linux journal says we shouldn't exclude users, and we indeed shouldn't. It doesn't mean we need to agree with wrong claims. We can explain how they are wrong, in a normal fashion. In fact, if you won't put any effort in explaining it, these people won't even know that anything is off with such approach (that Nvidia uses). And that very article points out, that it's not a good thing.

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Quoting: goldenkI disagree with what you say but with as many likes that you receive on your comments, most here think like you so I’ll just go on my way. I don’t believe anyone should be expected to know anything before trying or using linux. Just people using linux is good enough in my eyes no matter the hardware, obviously I’m on the wrong page.

You don't need to know it, to try it out, but you can learn it, to understand if you already want to stick around. Trying to fit Windows approach into Linux ecosystem is not productive. Bad actors like Nvidia aren't helping with this, since people assume that's normal.

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Quoting: lectrodeMake sure you read it while it's there. The Linux Journal just announced [External Link] it has closed its doors, but will try to keep the website online for a few weeks to give others a chance to archive it.

Requested Wayback machine to save it: https://web.archive.org/web/20190808184952/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-linux-journals-resurrection-taught-me-about-foss-community [External Link]

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Some Owlboy vibe to it.

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Good article which brings this topic of people who started using Linux, without understanding the value of FOSS:

https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-linux-journals-resurrection-taught-me-about-foss-community [External Link]

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Quoting: goldenkExactly, I don’t give a rats ass weather its nvidia or amd. It’s whoever makes the most powerful card and right now it’s nvidia. I could care less about the politics of weather something is open source or not. Its funny how all you AMD users get bent out of shape about hardware or software you dont even use.

Not surprising coming from those who are used to Windows approach to things. Nvidia is using the same. But Linux approach is different. You might not care less, but you should at least figure out what the Linux approach is.

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Actually, Nvidia's Vulkan implementation is not faster. If anything, AMD one actually is (considering ACO and amdvlk).

OpenGL cheating on the other hand can not be considered a "faster driver", it's not even a fair comparison. You need to compare compliant drivers for that.

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