Quoting: jensI know Feral/Aspyr games are not on your favorite distribution channel

I don't like Steam exclusivity any more than Windows exclusivity. But when DRM is thrown in, it makes it even worse.

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Quoting: jensStated differently, wine shouldn't compete with Feral or Aspyr titles, that would hurt the Linux market.

For me it doesn't :) I barely see any Feral or Aspyr titles on GOG ;)

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Quoting: jensStart your own company and do it better ;)

There are rational companies out there! They already sell games for Linux, as well as sell DRM-free.

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Quoting: jensMost owners and Executives I have spoken have my deepest respects. It is really not so easy to ensure that a company survives and to bear their responsibility.

I have no respect for control freaks who push DRM everywhere, while knowing it has nothing to do with increasing profits. I suspect Linux situation falls in the same irrational behavior category.

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Quoting: jensBut from their point of view it is still about just making money, or in case of publishers: trying everything they think is needed to max out their investments.

Urge for power is different from urge for money. They can combine together, but they can actually be conflicting. I.e. these execs can even rationally understand, that something they do would mean lost profits, but they still would do it, to feel more control. That's quite irrational from the pure financial point of view. That's why I said, don't just use common sense logic with them - it won't explain their behaviors in certain cases.

Here is a good example of this [External Link].

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Quoting: ShmerlTheir mindset is not something you should evaluate using common sense.

It's actually pretty easy, it's just about making (lots of) money. Really, that's the only motivation. ;)

Not necessarily. You are again using common sense approach with them. Sure, normal business strives to make money. But legacy publishers are dominated by backwards thinking execs who more often than money covet control. Urge for power can lead them to do things that cost them money, rather than the opposite.

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Quoting: jensWhen earning money on Linux is possible you will attract the big publishers

I wouldn't bet on it. It's already possible to earn money on Linux releases. That doesn't seem to wake most of the legacy publishers up. Their mindset is not something you should evaluate using common sense.

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Quoting: Alm888this added emulation will be as thin and transparent as possible ("slim" Vulkan instead of "bulky" OpenGL can help with that).

Yep, that's the point. But Wine is doing a good job of translating D3D11 into OpenGL, so I don't think they should spend time on re-doing it in Vulkan, at least not until it's already finished as is.

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Quoting: Alm888The day WINE starts to support DirectX 11 in full will signal the extinction of "ferals".

Feral ports in theory can have an advantage of translating D3D11 into Vulkan so that can squeeze some more performance. Wine translates it into OpenGL 4.x only. But it's not going to be that much of a difference. See how well it performs in the Witcher 3 for example (with AMD / Mesa).

For D3D12 Wine will naturally use Vulkan already.

By the way, Feral are actually contributing to Mesa itself, so they deserve credit.

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toGL is open source for the reference (MIT): https://github.com/ValveSoftware/ToGL [External Link]
It's not that useful these days, since it's limited to D3D9.

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